TRANSCRIPT - Tech Tea Time - WayAround for Home, Office and Public Spaces Р9/12/24 >>Neva Fairchild: My name is Neva Fairchild. I have the privilege of working for way around tag and scan system. I have a long term relationship with way around. When I work for Asv before my retirement. They brought their concepts to the center on vision loss in Dallas and said, What do you think about this? And I gave them my honest feedback, and anybody who knows me knows that I. Didn't pull any punches, and 6, 7 years later I now work for way around part time. And I have the pleasure of doing these kinds of demonstrations talking to. Entities, who want public tags in their environment. Independent living skills, trainers, vocational rehabilitation teachers and families about the independence that a person can achieve. With being able to tag personal items at home or in their office. And educators about using. Way around tags as a means of giving students access to their. Products and items that they use as well as. Up. Items in the classroom in the lab which locker is whose. If there's a way that you know, people exchange Items through, you know, dropbox kind of mail slots that kind of thing. The. Applications of the way around tag and scan system are as numerous as your needs and your ideas. I'm gonna start off by introducing you to the app. Which is available on iphone android and blind shell phones. I use an iphone 15. And what you see on your screen is from my phone. And. I'm assuming because I'm using my Phone to share. You guys are not able to hear my voiceover, but I will tell you that at the top of the screen my voice over tells me. That I'm in the way around App, and that's a heading level one. Line! As I swipe right to go down the screen with voiceover, I hear that my way cloud is connected, and that tells me that anything I create is being saved to the cloud, to the way around cloud, not your cloud storage. And the reason that's important is because. It's not. If I'm going to get a new iphone or a new Android phone, it's when it's not. If I lose my phone, it's when it's not. If my phone gets damaged, it's when and the lovely thing is, all of your tags are stored in our cloud. And all you do is get your phone repaired. Get a new phone. And log back into the way around App. And all of your tags are there, unlike former tagging systems. If you couldn't find your little Gizmo to read the stickers. Or if that Gizmo croaked which. Technology does. All of your tags were lost unless you were talented enough to connect it to your computer and download all your wave files, or MP. 3 files of all your tags, and that some computer expertise that a lot of people don't have. Way around, and makes it simple, and keeps everything in the cloud for you, for the future. Our settings area is something I'm going to cover in a little bit. But. Suffice it to say. The way the settings are set up when you download the way around app from the app store, or from Google play, or from the blind to. List of apps that they provide. The settings are set up for a typical user, and I'll go through and show you how they can be changed to. Customized to everyone's use. The other reason I'd like for you to go ahead and download the way around app on your own phone today is that number one. It's free. And number 2. You can come in as a guest. You don't have to create an account until you are ready to create tags. But you can use the way around app. And in settings you can access things like examples of our public tags. The Youtube Video Library of 37 videos that will help you to learn how to use way around and how the tags have been used by other people. As well as our store to purchase the individual tags. The next thing on the screen. That, you see, is a tag. I just read to test the sharing, and I'll show you how I read that tag in just a moment. The next thing is information that's on that tag about that particular spice, and how I use it in my. Recipes. And then I get the notification that my scanner is ready, and I can either read or create or edit this tag. So I would go to the Read Button if I wanted to read another tag. The edit button. If I wanted to change something on this pampered chef cinnamon plus tag. Or the create button. If I wanted to create a whole new tag for something else. I'm gonna show you the different kind of tags. And then I'm gonna demonstrate how the reading and writing works. I'm holding up a square and a round sticker that are on paper backings, that the paper sticks out beyond the the tag itself. Each of the tags, or the thickness of good solid cardstock. So once you put them on something. They're very tactile. They have our symbol, which is an eye shaped circle, compass, kind of thing that is black and white. High contrast. So we have tactile as well as we have High contrast, for low vision. The square is for everything, and metal surfaces. The round sticker is for everything except. Metal surfaces. The reason is, is near. Field communication is how the tags store their information, and how they communicate with the device. An iphone android phone or blind shell to phone. And those antennas are interfered with by metal surfaces. So I have a metal filing cabinet here to my right. If I put this round sticker on there, and I tried to create a tag it wouldn't create if I had already created the tag before I peeled it and stuck it. It wouldn't read the tag because the metal behind it would interfere. But the square tag has an extra layer on the back. Side of it. So they just. Tiny bit thicker than the circle tags. And it blocks the reader from knowing that there's metal behind there, and allows the tag to be read. Now these times can be a fixed to almost anything. They are water resistant, so they can even go on items that you're going to put in the dishwasher like my canisters. And my refrigerator dishes where I put leftovers, so that I can know a what is in this dish. And B. When did I put it in the refrigerator? Sometimes? That's a problem. We we grow a lot of science at my house. So those are the 2 different kinds of stickers. For other items in the kitchen and around the house that have metal services. We have a magnet. It is square which tells you it's capable of going on a metal surface. Let's hope so, since it's a magnet. It's kind of that flexible magnet material. It's white on one side and black on the other side, so that a person with low vision that they see best to the outside, and a fix the side they see least to the middle surface. And it also has a corner that is square where the other corners are rounded. So that they can know which way to put it. So it's right up. I don't care so much about right up, but if you wanted, if you wanted your your magnet. To look good, let's say, on a metal shelving system that was in a in storage room or something. You might want all the tags to be right up. I use these on the canned goods, and I'll show you how to read it in a minute. This is a can that has a magnet stuck to the top of it. I can turn it upside down. The magnet does not come off. And when I'm ready to find that can amongst all the other can goods. I can only read that, mandate, if I'm close enough to it to almost touch my phone to it, which means, when I open up my pantry, pull out my shelf with all my cans on it. My phone doesn't start shouting peaches. Pears hit me, chicken soup, tomato soup that would not be helpful. I only want to know what can is which, when I'm touching. Yeah. So when I hear the thing I want, if I'm making taco soup, I want kidney beans. When I hear kidney beans, I'm touching my phone to it. My other hand is guiding where my phone is touching and I grab that can. And I know I'm getting kidney beans. I take the magnet off of the can at that point and drop it into a little container. I have a little a tin pale looks like an a water or pale but it's only about the size of a coffee cup. It sits on my countertop, and that's where tags go once I use the product that they were on like magnets and buttons. The stickers I. Typically only use on things that aren't consumable. I use other kinds of tags on consumable things so that I can take them off in the container, and when I'm making my grocery list I can scan those tags and know that I used a can of tomato soup. I used a box of jiffy, corn, muffin, mix, etc, etc. The next kind of tag that we have is the one I fell in love with from the beginning. It's a 2 whole button. It's about the size of a large button. About the the diameter of a dime and the thickness of probably 2 dimes together, and there are 2 holes in the middle of the button, just like a shirt, would have. I sew these on my clothing at the bottom. Level of any garment on the right side. So that I go through those 4 layers of material without going to the outside. So you can see my stitches, and I stitch that button into my clothing. And our buttons are waterproof. Dryer, proof. And dry cleaner proof. So, guys, you can mark your sports jackets, your suits, your ties, things that have to go to the dry cleaners. But I do warn you I've heard nightmare stories from a couple of people that they're dry cleaner, clipped all the buttons off and handed them back to them in a cup. Along with their clean clothes. So you wanna be sure to advise people to tell their dry cleaners. Don't cut these buttons off. Leave them in there. Don't ask me why dry cleaner would think they needed to do that, but I've heard it twice. So if it's happened twice, it's happened more than that. I like to sew the buttons in so that they're secure, and in those 4 layers down there that him they don't pull out. Here's another kind of button we have. This is about the size of a nickel, a little bit larger than the 2 whole button. I would say maybe a quarter of an inch larger, and it has a big oval hole in the middle of it, so that I can use an elastic band like a ponytail. Hole. I like those better than rubber bands, because rubber bands dry out and break, and you don't know when it's gonna break. But your button is gonna end up in the bottom of the of the container or the sh on the shelf. And if several break at the same time, then you you've got a problem. But I put the elastic band through the oval, and then back through itself, which makes a lark's head, and he scats out there, and then you have a a portion of the elastic band left. To a fix it around, let's say a syrup bottle, or a bottle of olive oil or vinegar, or other small circumference things that you want that button to stick on, it can go in the refrigerator. It can go in the freezer so you could even get larger silicone rubber bands do the same thing and put it around a frozen bag of broth. Or Sara Lee Kai, and then again, once you pull the the. Food out to use it. You simply take the the button and drop it in your container to make your grocery list, and and. Reuse that tag. When you get home from the store you can also use a safety PIN. To PIN through that button. If you're not much of a seamstress, which I'm certainly not, but I can handle sewing a button on. You can PIN the overhaul buttons in the same location in your clothes, and the reason I say, that the him level on the right side is that that's the way I can touch a garment and quickly find my button. If you put it on right or left side, you're always wondering which. Am I looking for this doggone button on? And it also means that it's not gonna bug you. If you pinned it in the back of your neck or tags typically are, it would drive you bananas. So you wanna PIN it someplace where you're not going to feel it. You can also use a PIN through the top of a of a bag in the freezer, like the ziplock bag part before the scene. You know how the. Chicken nuggets come in a bag, and there's a Ziploc part, but up above that there's a part that's it's not a part of the bag. It's the it's the glued together edge. You can put a whole button with a safety PIN through the edge of that plastic. You can fix it around a cord and hang it around the bottle in your Head in the back to tell insecticides from fertilizers, from other chemicals that we keep on hand in our garage, or shed. The buttons are extremely helpful. For lots of different taggings, and because they are waterproof they can be kept outside so you could fix one of the buttons to a garden steak, for example, with hot glue, or with a rubber band or elastic band of some sort. And it would be readable through the summer, through the fall, through the winter if you didn't. If you know, if you live someplace where you can grow a garden all the time. Good luck! But it the weather that the elements will not. Harm it, and. If you go and look at our public Way around tags. In the settings. You'll see that we have outdoor way around tags and signs at a Place in Fargo, North Dakota, and I'm here to tell you they don't have mild winters, and it's an outdoor art. Sculpture, and they've been there several years, and they're still working beautifully. The last 2 kinds of tags we have are. Clips. They're like overgrown plastic. Paper clips. But they have different shapes on the top. One is rounded and one is square again. These are 4 on. Square goes on metal and everything else. Round goes on everything except metal, and they have a little pang here that you can put a band around and fix it to look hand like a can of raid or a can of oven like that. So you would wanna square clip for that, and the other ones are rounded top, and you would want to put that on a file folder. You can put it down on the top of a file folder. It actually. Sticks up like above a hanging file, folder in a drawer, and you can just pull files forward and read the tag, pull, file forward, read the tag, and find those file folders with your important papers. You can also fix the a safety PIN to this. You can even use them outdoors because they're very rugged. For example, on a on the underside of a rail. Of your decking the patio or decking around your backyard in your backyard. Take a clip and and use a power staple gun to staple it up under there, and then record the last time you stained the deck. And what color and brand of staying you used. Cause? Are you really gonna remember that in 3 years. I know I. Excuse me. So that's the 7 kind of tags. I said earlier that the way around app is free. The tags are purchased from our site. From the mail order catalogs like independent living Aids, and Ls and S group. And or through it. Guys who's a popular assistive technology provider. And other resources. Those are not our exclusive. They don't have exclusive rights, but those are the major ones. And they cost a little over a dollar a piece. Excuse me, that's why I don't recommend using stickers on consumables. I wouldn't want to put a sticker on a loaf of bread, because that loaf of bread is gonna be gone in a week or so. I would use a clip because you could pull a bread wrapper through the clip, and it would hold it air tight, or I would use a button on a an elastic band to close. And a product like tips, or something like that. Put it around the chip, clip. Put it, stick it on the chip clip. Then you could reuse it. And what I haven't told you about so far is that. The. The tags, all of them. Are reusable. So that let's say, my magnet. That is on my tomato soup. I decide you know what tomato soup doesn't agree with me so much anymore. I don't really like it all that much, anyway, and I'm not making the recipes that I used to use it in. So I'm gonna change this magnet to say cream of chicken soup. Or. Press, pineapple, or whatever else I wanted to say, I can completely edit all the information and rewrite them over and over and over. They estimate that the tags can be read 10,000 times. [Neva Fairchild] 15:21:42 Without a battery, without anything but the app. And our tags are proprietary. They are. Only readable with the way around app. There are other Nfc. Readers out there are other Nfc. Tags out there. But those apps and those tags are not necessarily accessible like way around. Tags are. We have a proprietary system. And it is patented. So let's see how to read a tag. I'm gonna hit the read button. It's in the bottom left corner of my screen. Always. And I have to double tap on it because I'm using voice over. If you were using text or inverted colors, because that's your accessibility, choice, or your students accessibility, choice. Or a refreshable braille display. You can activate. Our our app and the elements within our app with any of those kinds of access technology. When way around is on, it's using the access technology that the user prefers. So I'm gonna hit. The read button I double tapped in and it says, ready to scan. And I'm going to touch something else so that you'll know it's it's a new scan. I'm gonna touch this magnet on top of this can. As I got close I was probably half inch away. Crushed pineapple. Okay. I think I was talking when she talked, but she said crushed pineapple. Now I don't put a lot of information on my tags if I don't need that information, and I don't think I put anything on this. It always reads the 1st and most important information which you put in the 1st text box when you're creating it, and all I put in. There was crushed pineapple. And I don't have any other details. I could put other details like it's Libby Brand, or I don't know Del Monte Brand. I don't care about that. It's pineapple. I could put calories or grams of, you know carbohydrates, or any of that kind of information that was important to me. But none of that really is for this particular product. I'm going to hit the read button again. And go back to the pampered chef. Cinnamon, plus. It's a circle tag. The last one is a magnet. This is a round tag on the top of the spice. And it read. When I was about. To be. Pampered chef, cinnamon, dietary, information, gluten-free recipes, pumpkin bread, 2 tablespoons. It was it read when I was about a half an inch away, which is fine. I always just shoot for touching it. I feel a vibration I hear when it reads it, and then the voice reads it out loud. Now I've turned on a feature called Speakway Tag. So that you hear something when I read a tag, because, for whatever reason I can't, I cannot figure out how to get voice over to come across on a zoom share. One of these days. I'm gonna master it, but I haven't yet. And so I hear it with voiceover. I will turn that feature of Speak off. After we finish this seminar, because. Right now. I'm hearing it read twice. Which I don't need to hear. 2 voices need one. And then I want to show you that I have more information on this tag, because it's useful to me. And this was created through a drop down template that I'll show you in a minute when we create a tag. I chose gluten free because I happen to know that pampered chef spices are gluten free, and that might be important to me. Someday, if I'm making something for someone who needs gluten free. And then. I wrote a text field, a custom text field that says recipes, and I have a pumpkin bread. That I wasn't happy with the amount of spices in it when I used what was called for in the recipe. And so I went. I started with one tablespoon. It didn't taste cinnamony enough for me. I tried a tablespoon and a 1 and a half teaspoon, which is a half a tablespoon. And I still wasn't happy. And then I I use 2 tablespoons, so I kept editing my my tag, and the 2 tablespoon was just right. It tasted delicious. I'm not gonna remember that 6 months from now, when I wanna make pumpkin bread again. I haven't made it until. You know, since you know, last Christmas. So now I'm about to start making pumpkin. And now I'll know. Oh, yeah, I decided 2 tablespoons was the right amount for that recipe, and I have several other spices and herbs in my cabinet that I've done that with, because I have particular recipes. That kind of are in my head that I know by heart. My pumpkin recipe is a boxed cake. Mix a can of pumpkin and an egg. That's it. I can remember that. But how much spice I can't always remember. Anyway, that's and and that came from a template and a custom edit field, and that gave me lots more information. I'm gonna read one more tag. I'm gonna double tap on the button. And this is a bottle from under my kitchen sink. And it has a large oval button. On a split ring wrist bracelet that just drops around the top of a spray bottle just perfectly. It doesn't fall off because the bottle is so fat it won't slip all the way off, but it goes. Easily on and off over the top. I'm gonna put my phone near. Clorox cleanup ingredients. Contains bleach warning use in ventilated area on surface, and wipe away with cloth or sponge. Let's sit for a few minutes for tough stains. I got that information to add to my tag, to remind me of some safety information like using it in a ventilated area. And. And I wanted to remember. I mean, how could you not forget that Clorox contains bleach? But it was a handy little thing to put in there. And then the warning is to use in a ventilated area. And then instructions. Spray spray on surfaces. Now, why do I have a tag on my Thorox cleanup cause I'm here to tell you that bottle feels a lot like my Fabrice. And if I use Fabrice on a bathroom sync that I want to clean. No problem. Oh, I realize that's Fabrice, because it smells great, and gee! My sink isn't sanitized. So let me get my Clorox out. But if I accidentally grab the Clorox and spray the carpeting. When it's smelling a little doggie. I've just ruined my carpeting because I sprayed bleach on my carpet. So, marking things under the sync, I find very helpful and important for safety. And and also for me, not ruining things. Quite as often. Alright! Let's create a tag. I'm gonna create a tag. Whoops. Where are you? Create. It comes up at the very top of the screen, at the way around, heading level. One. It tells me my way cloud is connected. Now, what if you live somewhere where you don't have Wi-fi and I have customers and families who don't. They live out in the country. They don't have Wi-fi, but they want to use the way a friend or way around. It's not a problem. They can still create tags. And the next time they're near. A Wi-fi connection. Let's say they go to Mcdonald's or Starbucks, and they link up to the free Wi-fi, or they go to the Public Library, and they link up to the free Wi-fi. Then all the tags that they've created since the last time they connected to Wi-fi goes directly to the cloud, and they're saved. I'm at home. I have Wi-fi connection. So my way cloud is always on. The next thing is a text field. That is a multi text field. And I put the most important information. There. That's what way around is going to read to me first.st So I use. I've double tapped on the edit field to make it an active is editing field. And I'm gonna dictate. I could use the on screen keyboard, which is present now. But I'm lazy, and I don't have my bluetooth keyboard hooked up right now. But if I was doing a lot of tags, if like, this was a closet day, and I was really working on getting more and more of my closet, I would have my bluetooth keyboard hooked up. Because dictation isn't always accurate on screenboard. Creation of text information is slow and cumbersome, so I would use a Bluetooth keyboard that would connect to my phone. Today, I'm gonna dictate. Red polo shirt. So that's in my 1st and most important. Text. Now I'm gonna swipe once to the right. Here's the template that has lots of dropdown information. To add, without doing the typing as well as extra edit fields, to add more information like that. Recipes pumpkin bread to tablespoons that, I added. I'm gonna open that template just to show you what's there. So there's an appointment. I know people who use a spiral bound. Index card. Booklet. And they have. Way around, stickers on the pages. And they they dedicate them to a month, or a week, or a day, depending on how busy they are, and they and they access a calendar that way. Artwork is a way to. Tag your art collection, whether it be photographs or paintings. Or sketches, or any of that, to document them. Cause once something's in a frame for me as a totally blind person. I might remember what's in that frame, but I can promise you up there on that wall. I have 4 or 5 different frames. I don't know which is which I don't remember, but I can tag them and remember what they are, and then talk about them and share them with people that are interested. There's a business card template, so you could create a business card. Tag to keep track of a person you met. Cleaning supplies. That's where I got those warnings and drop downs for my Clorox cleanup. Clothing care. That's what I'm gonna come back to to use for this red polo shirt. Then there's custom. That's the one I was talking about, where you can just add a custom edit field easily. There's a file folder, template. A grocery item, template. And models, custom template, so that might be for hobbies and modeling. There's personal care product that's things in your bathroom, in your, in your bathroom, in your shower. And then there's a dismissed context menu because I got in here by accident. I didn't want to be in here anyway. But I do. I'm going to go back to clothing, care quickly. >>Donna: Neva. This is donna real quick. >>Neva: Yes. >>Donna: On the artwork. If you. Put a sticker on the back. Are you still able to access it so that it doesn't interfere with the say picture? We can just have it on the back. >>Neva: Yes, I would recommend putting it on the back or on the side. If the frame is thick enough, I would not put it on the front. You don't want to look at that. And if the backing and the glass and everything isn't too thick, it is possible. Then it will read. I would test it before you decide where you want to put it. You could put it on the inside. Okay, you know how there's glass. Then there's the diploma. And then there's a backing thing that holds it in the frame. You could put it on the inside of the backing, so it's behind the diploma not visible. But there's less thicknesses between your phone and the sticker, and then you would want to put it in a particular place. Like all my artwork is marked in the bottom right hand corner. I'm right handed. >>Donna: Thank you. >>Neva: Near the bottom I can reach. It makes sense. You decide a consistent place where you want to put it. You bet! So I'm an open clothing. Care, template, and just run through it quickly with you. There's a sorting feature that is a pop-up button, and you can sort by darks or lights or delegates. And for somebody who's new to clothing care, you know, a teenager who's learning to do their own laundry. This is super helpful, especially for somebody who's totally blind, who's like Oh, gosh! I don't know is red or light. I don't remember. That's a way to be able to sort your clothing and and not end up with pink underwear. Okay. Then. Washing instructions so that could be the temperature, the delicate, that kind of thing. It also has a place for dry, clean only. To remind you. Yeah, don't put that on your washer. Send that to the dry cleaners. Drawing instructions the same way that might be dry, low, dry. Hang dry. Those kinds of instructions are in there, and that's lovely, because if you select it, it'll select that thing and then pop you right back into this template to keep going, and then, when you create the tag, all those things you selected will be listed one at a time that you swipe through when you are in a tag. Then there's another button that captures all the things that everything else didn't talk about. Purchase date. So when I 1st saw this, I thought, Am I gonna know when I purchased all that stuff in my closet? I don't. But when you purchase something new and you're creating a tag for it, and you put the purchase date in. And it fills in today's date. Who cares if you bought it yesterday one day off isn't gonna hurt. But then, 3 years from now, when I'm looking at this tag, and I realize. Put that shirt in 2024. I better have somebody look at it and make sure it's not faded. Make sure it still looks nice. Because. Want to look put together. I want to look like I care about my appearance. And unless I'm the. Excuse me, know how old something is. I may not realize that it's gotten kind of. A cleaned date is handy for like overcoats and those kinds of things that you want to keep track of. The last time I cleaned. This was last October, and now it's September. G's Louise. I better get that cleaned before it starts getting cold, and I start wearing it again. And then there's another date like I don't know. You might want to put you wore it to the Christmas party. For your you know, for your sorority, or your fraternity, or something, only as girls would care about that. But you know, just to remember when you were something, so that if you don't want to wear the same dress 2 years in a row, you know. And then always at the bottom of every one of these templates is add a custom block along with the custom feature back in the main menu of the template. In every single sub menu of the template there's an add a custom block, something that you want to add so like. If I was. If I was making a tag for my white cane t-shirt, I just ordered when it comes in I would add a custom block to describe. The Graphic, and and put what year it was for, and that kind of thing. And the lovely thing is with today's be my eyes. App with the be my AI. You can take a picture of a t-shirt laying on your bed. And it will describe the Graphic so wonderfully. You can believe it. My husband could never describe anything as well as that. Does. And you can copy and paste that description out of B, my AI, and into your tag. So you don't ever have to take that picture and process that again. It's right there on your tag where you need it. And so now I've come to the bottom of the template. I don't even have to go out of the template. I'm going to go back and choose something, so you'll see. Let's do washing. Machine wash warm. Oh, maybe not. My red. Machine was normal. If. There it is the teen wash cold, because I really want my red to stay bright. So I I chose marine machine wash cold marine wash. Oh, boy. Alright! Now I'm down. I'm at the bottom of the screen again, and it's the right button, the WRIT. E. Button, not the RITH. Button. So I double tap on the right button. And I am going to put this on my 2 hole button. And I touch my the top of my phone to the 2 whole button. And it. Red polo shirt, washing machine, cold. And see it, said red polo shirt machine, cold. Now. It also told me when I when I successfully got it close enough to the button, I felt that double. I I felt the vibration I felt a double tap. I heard a dink. And I heard the words, Success. Wait, tag written. So I have good confirmation, that if there being the doubting Thomas that I am. I'm gonna touch the read button again. Double tap it that essentially clears what was on the screen. Away. And I'm gonna touch. And it vibrates. Red polo shirt, washing machine, cold. Red polo shirt, washing instructions, machine wash. So that's the basics of way around. I would like to I would like to stop and see if anybody has any questions. I may have gone over something too fast, or you may have a problem you'd like way around to solve. How can I tag this. And while you're thinking about that, I'm gonna tell you about one of the most interesting. Sales we ever made was to a cattle rancher in Tennessee. He's blind. His father was retiring from the ranch. He's getting older. And the 40 something year old. Son is taking over the ranch, and he called us up and said, I have 300 and something odd cows. And I need to be able to tell them apart. Tell when they had veterinary services. List their inoculations list, their sire and dam and their lineage, and I don't know how I'm gonna do it. And Our Square on metal stickers. That are water, resistant. When on the back of every one of those cows, Earg, which is a it's like a big pierced ear ring, but it's a metal. And this went on the back of it. The front has a number that the cited ranchers can read, and now, on the back. His cows have all of their information on a way around tag. And when they're doing when they're doing shots when they're doing health checks. He can tell which cow is which cow and. And can edit those tags to add any new information. Like a new inoculation they got, or a new health problem they had. I love that story. I think it's fabulous that that man is continuing his family's. Lineage of cattle, ranching. And I hope way around will help you and or your students. To do the same in their lives, to do the things they love to do, and be able to do it more independently. >>Donna: That is a wonderful story. This is Donna. I'm gonna read from the chat from Jessica. >>Neva: Thanks. >>Donna: Jessica says definitely, going to use this recording for a lesson with a couple of students. Your descriptions and instructions and functionality of this technology is beyond excellent. Thank you. >>Neva: You are so welcome, and I want to remind you that in this settings portion of the app. There's a link to our Youtube channel that has lots of short and long recordings. Webinars that we've given as well. I'm sorry I'm looking at my phone. And you guys are up there in the camera. Sorry about that. That you can access. And I wanna add one thing about getting a student started. So. Let's say let's say it's a student who is a hobbyist, and they want to mark. All of their hobby supplies, and it's a bit overwhelming because. There's a lot to mark. So. You can sign into their way around camp that they must create in order to create tags. You have to have your own account. You can be a guest for public spaces, but you have to be logged in to create it, to create and read your own tags. But you can share that logging information with a teacher, with a family member, with a helper. For the time that they're gonna help you create. Tags, and then the the person would log out. Log back into their own account, or just log out. And then the student would be able to read all the tags that were made that day, not just the tags they made, because it would all be going to the same account in the sky. And that's a little different than for public space tags, because public space tags can be read by a guest. Or someone who's logged in. And they are read only you cannot create your own public tags. Only way somebody can read your tags. Is, if. You give them your login credentials. So if you come to my house. You can't read my tags unless I let you log into my account because you want to cook something, and rest assured I'd be happy to let you log in, so you can tell my canned goods and my spices and all of that stuff apart, because anything anybody else cooks always tastes much better to me than the stuff I cook. Next. Any other questions. >>Donna: I'm not seeing any other. Jessica did say, yes, that's right. She is. Gonna look forward to those Youtube videos. And I don't see any other questions coming across just yet. I know that I just may set up my own account and use some tags for my. Goats and chickens, so that sounds awesome to me. >>Neva: It does sound awesome. I would recommend the oval buttons. And some sort of attachment. Maybe to another tag that's already there, like a split ring, a little small ring that would add an old hole button, because. Chickens and goats are gonna get wet right? They're gonna they're gonna be outside when it's raining. They're gonna be playing in a puddle, or something that you know quitters like to do. And because the overhaul buttons are water, resistant and easily attached with a split, I think that might be a good solution. I love to play the game stump. Way around. With. Ideas or thoughts that you have. Well, that's cool, but I bet it wouldn't. I bet it wouldn't tag this, or you couldn't tag that I love to play that game. So I challenge you. Stump me if you can. >>Donna: And Bill says. You are my, are his favorites. His absolute, favorite. So. Thank you, Bill. >>Neva: Thank you, Billy. >>Donna: Yeah, I'm I may even see about. Recording my tractor. Data on there, and our maintenance. That would be cool. >>Neva: Amazing idea. So all of the appliances in my house have a square sticker on them. And that's where I record the brand name, because who the heck can remember is that refrigerator and lg, or a May tag who the heck knows, and what model is it? Cause, you know they're like model 2822. 0, okay. Who cares. But then the other thing that I mean, even my husband, who is cited, has trouble finding and trouble reading. Why not read it once and put the serial number in there. So it's quickly and easily available. And the reason I did it is because when something goes out and he's not home. I have to wait for him to be home at the end of a day to call for repair, and I'm telling you when my dishwasher goes out. I don't wanna wait a whole day. Call for repair. I want it fixed now. >>Donna: Absolutely. I agree. We were just trying to read something that went out and. We both had our phones out with the light on, and we had them zoomed in, and we still couldn't read those numbers, so I think this would be an amazing for some appliances and and other things. >>Neva: I'm Mel. >>Donna: Gina has said that she very much enjoyed learning more about this app. It's has some wonderful options for tagging. And thank you so much for a great. >>Neva: Thank you. Gina. >>Donna: And John says, Thank you, and. Do we have any other questions? >>Neva: You know, I just wanted to mention for your deaf blind students or acquaintances, or Customers. If if you work for an agency that that. Uses that term. For a deaf, blind individual being able to use their refreshable braille display along with their phone. Allows them access to information, and I'm a huge braille fan. Do not get me wrong. All of my medications come from a mail order pharmacy, so that I can have them marked in braille. But all of the supplements and over the counter medications I have a way around. Button dropped in with the other pills. So that I can tell the B 12 from the I don't know vitamin c, although those are very different in shape and size. But do you know what I mean? But our our deaf, blind consumers. Can use this to access information, and more information will fit on a way around tag. Then they could possibly put on a braille label. I labeled a whole. Thing full of spice containers from Tupperware. My daughter sat down with me. I created all the Braille labels, dumped the spices into the Tupperware, and I put them on there, and I swear to goodness it wasn't a week until all of those labels had popped off and onto the shelves. And I had all of these spices and herbs that I didn't know what they were anymore. And I had to limit what I put on there because of the space available to stick a braille label. And so I think, especially for people who are deaf, blind. This is a great solution for tagging. >>Donna: That is wonderful, and I think we'll share that information over with our with our rest of our team for the fine group. >>Neva: That would be great. I'd love to do a presentation for the deafline specialists anytime. >>Donna: Let's see, Laura said. Thank you. Karen said. Thank you. Awesome tagging options. And we are down to the last 9 min. If anyone else has any more questions, or if we have more information, more tips and tricks that are going in the last 9 min. >>Neva: So I want to tell you one more thing that I didn't think to include my phone again. So on an iphone. The Nfc. Reader is up here at the top. Where you plug in it. At 6 o'clock you plug in your power cable. The Nfc. Reader is at 12 o'clock on that top skinny edge of the phone. Okay. And that's the part of the phone that has to get close to the tag. On an Android phone. The Nfc. Reader is somewhere here on the back. Not exactly in the middle always. Sometimes it's a little above the middle, sometimes it's a little below the middle. So for your Android phone you have to figure out where is the sweet spot for the Nfc. Reader. The blind fill 2 is exactly the same as an android, because it is an android. It's on the back, and and again depending on which model you have. And which phone they use. It could be a little above or a little below. [Neva Fairchild] 15:52:29 The one annoying thing about. The Nfc reader and iphone is that apple will not allow the Nfc. Reader to activate automatically. So if I take and I don't. Hit the read button, and I touch my phone to the top of the spice bottle. Where that tag is, nothing happens because Apple retains control. So the read button has to be pressed. To activate the reader, and then it'll read the tag. So that's kind of annoying. If you're going through 10 or 12 shirts to figure out which one is my green polo shirt, because it's St. Patty's Day, and that's what I want to wear. And so we make a product called away Link. And that connects to the phone via Bluetooth. In settings, you turn on waylink, so that instead of using your phone is the reader you use this little box. And the the beauty is that once Waylink is turned on. It overrides the reader that's inside the phone and that box. It's about the size of a box that ticks. And you can get it on a carabiner or a belt, so that you know you could let it go, and it won't drop. But then you just touch the way, link to the button to the next button to the next button, and it just keeps reading and reading. Without you having to go back and double tap read each time. So I have one of those in my closet, and I have one of those in my pantry, because when I'm going through canned goods to pull the phone out, double, tap, re, put it back in. It's just. It's not efficient. So the way Link can be added to the phone to make it a little bit easier to read. You still have to have your phone. It needs to be near enough that you can hear it, or your braille display has to be near enough that you can check what it says. But it. It still uses the phone, but it usurps the need to double. Tap that read button. When you're an apple iphone user. >>Donna: Thank you so much for your. Visit, and coming and talking to us about way around. We are going to wrap up our session. >>Neva: Thank you for inviting me, Donna. I enjoyed it very much. >>Donna: Thank you. If you would. Wouldn't mind. Stop share for us. >>Neva: Oh, I'd be happy to do that! Let me figure that out. >>Donna: Awesome. There we go!