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TSBVI Tech Tea Time: Tactonom Reader Live Demo
3/6/25

>>Klaus-Peter Hars: So what I'd like to do today is take you through the session and the way I'd like to structure is to tell you first a bit about us, who we are, what we're trying to do. Give you a background that will demo the text from Redeflex, which is right sitting next to me. I'll change the camera when we're there. Then show you where all the information comes from and The final one is to create graphic within a couple of minutes. So our company is called Inventivio. We are from Germany. We're currently 14 people. Cited, visually impaired and blind people, I've created that company with my brother. And the reason is that we have two blind people in the family. So it's not only a business for us, it's a bit more important than that. And what we are trying to achieve is to reduce the many barriers blind people face in their everyday life, be it in education, mobility. On the job or in taking part in society. The way that we try to do this is by enabling access to information through innovation. The company is called Inventivio so inventions is really at the heart of what we're trying to do. And when we talk about innovation, it's hardware, it's content and service. And very important for us, it's software. So we are lucky that in the past we have received quite a few awards from the local government in Germany, from the German president and what is always very important in Europe is the European Union, which has Funded us for not the taxonometer that I'm going to show today, but for another product that we are introducing at the end of the year. We're obviously very proud that we've been received by prime ministers and and presidents in Europe. And what we're trying to achieve That's what I'm going to show on the next slide. Is enabled blind people to access information. For that, at the moment, we have three products. The first one is the taxonom reader, which has been around for two or three years. Very new. We have the technical reader flex which is a mobile graphics display. And we have the detection of transformer, which is a swell paper machine. So what we're trying to achieve is enable access to tactile graphics. And I have here a graphic that shows my home country, Germany. It's a tablet-sized paper on which you have the 16 states that controls Germany. And you can see dotted lines from each of the states that lead to braille text. And this is how these graphics work, that when you want to know where your finger currently is, you move along those dotted lines, come to the braille text and read Braille. And that is, you know, we believe, a first issue because You move your finger away from what you're interested to find somewhere else the information. So you separate both in space and in time the the point you're interested in and the information you're getting. That's not ideal. The second thing that bothers us is Braille takes up a lot of space. We are complete believers in Braille. But on this graphic, I just have the space to put in the name of the 16 states of Germany. Good luck doing the same with the US. You then have to work with abbreviations in the table that's next to you, so that's not ideal. So what I'm really trying to say is working with graphics for blind people is hard. It is not like for sighted people when we were in school or university, you opened a book. There were graphics. We liked those pages. I don't know if they were simpler, easier to understand. You didn't have to read that much. And when we had a page where there was text only, we didn't really like that. It was harder for us. Now for blind people, it's exactly the opposite. It's, oh my God, there are graphics. What do I do? Right? And that is a problem, right? Now you could say okay then we will not learn and work and inform ourselves with graphics when we're blind. But if you take a look with how many graphics sighted people learn from their first day at school. Until predication, then this number is huge. We calculated that this is about 25,000 graphics. Now, if you're a blind person in school, you have far less tactile graphics that you work with. Depends on the school and the country and the state and many other factors, but a good number is somewhere between 80 to 150 graphics. For your entire time in school. And that's just not enough. I don't think that I would be sitting here if I had only had access to such a reduced number of graphics. Now, if we say, okay, we need to solve this because education and information is becoming more visual. Every year it's getting more and more visual. Then what do we do? What do we need to do to make tactile information. Relevant and accessible for blind people. What are the requirements? And we have thought long about this and discussed with a huge amount of people and we've come up with six requirements that we need to be met. The first one is you need to give me the context and the overview of any graphic that you put to me. So tell me, is it the map of the United States, for instance? Then I have an expectation towards the graphic, you can understand what it is. But that's not enough. You also need to tell me what kind of graphic is that? Is that a map? Is that a floor plan? Is it a flow chart? I don't know, an explosion shot, an enlargement. There are so many different types. And then tell me where to start. The eyes do not need an entry point. The fingers do. And I have seen a huge amount of graphics created for blind people and Very rarely, as it said, start here and then go on to that part. Second point is give me the structure and give me the entry point. And the third one is, when I touch something with my fingers, please let me know what I have under my fingertips while I feel it. Don't make me go somewhere else or separate this in time. While I'm touching it, explain to me what I have under my fingertips. We also believe that we need more information that's currently available in a standard tactile graphic. We want it to be so intuitive and easy to use that I do not need. A sighted person to help me to explain things to me and And so that I'm really able to work on my own. And the last of these six requirements that we have identified is for me the most important one. And that is why can't learning be fun? If I like using my sense of touch, if I like working with graphics, then I'll spend more time with it. I'll understand better. I'll get better marks for it. I'll spend more time. So I get into this positive cycle. Where we want to be so that's The six requirements that we have identified for tactile graphics. Now, I've really raised the bar really high, but I'll let you judge at the end. If the taxable reader fulfills these requirements. Now, this is detection will be the flex. I'm showing a picture of the Taxone reader flex. It's folded. It comes in a bag that you can strap over your shoulder and carry around from from home to your school or your place where you get educated But you can also take it from room to room and you can there you can Folded. It has flaps that you open up so that you can put large size paper, tableau-sized paper on it. You can fold up the camera arm and place graphics onto it. There is a keyboard right in front of you with nine keys, really easy to use. We tested that with mine. Children of the age of six to eight, take some minutes to understand what works fine. You have a surface that is not an haptic screen. I insist on that. That's going to be very important later on. It's a metal plate. And onto this metal plate, you place tactile graphics. That can be swell paper graphics, that can be embossed. Thermo foam 3D printed, it doesn't really matter. What matters is where do these graphics come from? And I'm going to show you later on in the demo that they come from a non-profit organization called Probeline. They have a database with more than 4,000 graphics. And all of these graphics you can download for free. You can upload your own graphics. You can change existing ones. And automatically translate them into 25 languages. All of that completely free. Back to the tactile readout. Flex, it has flex to loudspeakers, also had some audio jack and on top of it, there's a camera. And that's where the magic is. The camera first recognizes the position of your finger. Looks at what is embedded under that position where your finger is at. We call this as a digital twin where the information is embedded and thereby we're able to explain to you exactly what you have under your fingertips. Now with that, we can support blind and visually impaired in many different areas. For us, education is very important. We can support with floor plans and mobility. With network plans on the job, also in participation. But our focus really is education. And education does not start at school. It starts far earlier. Especially for blind people, born blind people, you first need to train your tactile senses. And we believe the earlier you start to show the power of the tactile senses and show how much fun it can be to use your tactile sense the better it is because Then you also have to… learn spatial thinking, which is hard for a blind person and the most difficult probably is to develop your sense of or your mind's ability to abstract. Let me explain. If you think of an analog clock with one or two, three o'clock and so on, and the minutes. That is hard for sighted people to understand. For a blind person, you first have to understand the structure of it and then understand the concept. From our perspective, this is not twice as hard, it's 10 times as hard as hard. But the good thing is that the human brain can adapt to the challenges we pose it. We call that neuroplasticity. Where the neurons of the brain can be redirected to help us understand things like the concept of the clock and other concepts that are needed in school. So the earlier we start with training our mind's ability to abstract, the better it is. And we recommend to start depending on on the individual at the age of about three and train these senses then. With that, I'd like to move over to the Taxman BreedFlex, which is sitting right next to me. And I'd like to structure the demonstration by highlighting five areas or addressing five areas. One is independent learning. The second is interactive learning. The third is working with smart learning tools. Fourth is intelligent learning apps. And then I'm going to show you free learning content. I'm stopping my presentation. And I'm going to switch my camera so that you can see the Tactum reader reader flex. So the first I'm going to start out with the independent Learning bubble, as we call it. And we'll place the first graphic onto the surface of the tattoo reflex. And I have a clamping mechanism that all the graphic in place. And the only thing I do now is press the new page button and now the camera scans the QR code of America. The individual states are separated by lines from each other. The neighboring states are indicated. It makes sense to start with the compass which is… So what happened here is the camera detected a QR code that is on each of the graphics. And you also find that there are four markers in each of the corners. We need them to calculate the position of the finger. And he had told me, start with the compass, which is at the right of the Braille text. I'm going to put my finger onto it. And press the enter button. Compass. I'm adding a second layer. Announce titles and descriptions. Compass. The tip of the triangle points towards the north. So, north is at 12, east at 3, south at 6. And west at nine o'clock. So what happened here technically is that the camera recognized the position of my finger looked up what is that exact point and reads it out to me. I have the possibility to reduce the information or add information Which I just did. And now I can place my finger just anywhere on the graphic, press enter. By neighboring states, Southwest, Mexico, West, New Mexico, North to Northeast. Oklahoma, Northeast, Arkansas, East, Louisiana. Capital City, Austin.

So I don't always want to hear all of this information. That's why I'm reducing the amount of information again by pressing the second button from Kentucky, Oklahoma. Place my finger anywhere, press enter. Nebraska, Wyoming. New York, Vermont. It's very fast and it's very precise. But what I can start to play with now is is… I want to find a state. Let's say I want to find California. Or I'm in Arizona at the moment, so I'd like to find Arizona. Then usually the way this works is someone would grab my wrist and say, this is Arizona. Well, that's very kind, but it doesn't really help because how did I get there? Will I find it myself? We know where the finger is and we know where each of the state is. We can guide you there. We call this mode navigate to. Explore. Navigate to. Of all the states. Alaska. I'm going to choose Arizona. Press enter. And place my finger anywhere on the graphic. And tell me to move my finger to 9 o'clock. The kicking gets faster as I approach. 12 o'clock. This is Arizona. Arizona. And this works in any graphic. You don't have to program anything. It's just there. And thereby you can independently find information that you want to find. We'd like to play to the strength of blind people, therefore. It is very important for us to work with sounds. What I have here is the structure of a symphony orchestra. The structure of a symphony orchestra. With a lot of indicators where different instruments are placed. If I put my finger on one of them, you will hear. You will hear the sound of the instrument that is placed there. If I add the second layer of information. You will also hear that this is, I think it was a basil. All your information tells a lot to blind people. And we also use audio to help blind people work with with graphics. I have here. Two math graphs. It's called trigonometric approximation. Of a parabola. Gdhm trigonom There are two lines that intersect for the eye, it's really easy to follow, not so easy for the finger because you easily follow the wrong line by following these lines. And what we try to do is help blind people by adding audio information, audio cues to stay on the right lines. Explore object. Explore life. We call this explore lines. I've not activated that mode and now automatically sounds are associated to each of these two lines. That's the sound for line one. I move my finger along that line. At that intersection you hear two different sounds. Now I know With that new sound, I know I left the initial line. I'm going to trace it back. There's the next intersections. And this way I can find exactly the line that I want to fight. I know where intersections are. And it helps me to distinguish between the two or number X of different lines. If I put my finger on it again, it'll tell you the name of the line and also gives you maxima and minima in an acoustic way. I'm going to show you. Grab the best approximation through a trigonometric polynomial. And so we force the top, this is the maximum. You can hear that the pitch change. That's the minimum. And this is the end of it. So with these sounds that are again automatically assigned. They helped me to work with graphics. And that's to work independently with mathematics. That is the point that I wanted to make here, that the tactron redeflex enables you to learn independently because it automatically downloads a graphic and tells you what is An onographic it helps you tells you what you have under your fingertips, helps you navigate, explore lines and so on. So that's what we understand. Independent learning. The second area that I wanted to show you is interactive learning. And the first example for interactive learning is the following graphic. We have here the number range, 100. It's a math graphic. And you have boxes from one, two, three. Number range, 100. And from 11 to 20 to 100. I can put my finger on any of these boxes. 56. And it'll read back the amount or the number. If I now go to interactions. Explore, navigate interactions, calculate. It asked me 24 questions. 39 plus 9. So ask me questions. So 39 plus 9 is 48. I'm going to look for the number 48. Here it is. Press enter. 48 is right. 4 multiplied by 3. If I go to the wrong number. 13 is not correct. So that means I can work on my own, at my own speed It tells me if I'm right or wrong. And what I also find very, very good, it now becomes impatient with me. So that's the way that I can Work on my mental arithmetic without someone else sitting next to me and correcting me. Honestly, none of us like that, that someone else always knows better. And you feel that you have to improve, but it just sometimes takes time. To rehearse and repeat things. But it's not only rehearsing, it's also being able to work with fun learning formats that sighted people use all the time. I have The math snake puzzle. The idea of a snake puzzle is that you have a starting value, in this case 39, And then an operation and to find the results, then you have next operation, next result you have to find. And I can go to, I need to input the information in these boxes. And I have underneath these The math snake i have numbers from 1 to 40 that I can then choose. So I'm going to highlight the first field where I need to insert the result from 39 minus 3. Box 1. And I know it's 36. I'm going to choose 36. 36 is right. If I now go to the next box. Box one. Was already found. I already had that, so 36 minus one is 35. I'm going to highlight this. And make a mistake is not correct. Again, I can work on my own and it tells me if I'm right or wrong, but more important is that I can work with the same learning formats. Multiple choice gap text, math snake, puzzles. Pyramids, walls, what have you. These formats that sighted people use all the time but they are almost inaccessible for blind people today. But I could also say, you know, I want to train my tactile abilities. I have here a graphic that shows different shapes, triangles, squares, rectangles. Circles ovals and here the task could be you know show me all the triangles And then I'd have the time and could choose the triangles Which is far more difficult than it looks. Again, enable interactive learning for blind and visually impressed. So that's the part of interactive learning where you rehearse work with learning formats. Work on your mental arithmetic and do that independently at your own speed and get feedback. And as you go along. The third area that I wanted to show you is about smart learning tools. And I'd like to start this section off with the the analog clock, which we talked about earlier on, when we talked about abstraction of the mind's ability to abstract. And what I have here in my hands is the arms of a clock. And there is a magnet that sticks to the surface. That's why the surface is metallic. And now I'm going to go to new page. The clock. I can now simply follow each of the arms, place my my finger at the end of it tells me the hours and here it tells me 45 minutes. So I can start to play and say what time did I get up? Then I walk to the bus station. And things like that. Playfully learning with tactile graphics. The second… smart learning tools I wanted to show you is in geometry. I have here the body network of a cube and in my hand I have the the tiles that make up a cube. And there's the text and read our text will now tell me fold up. This tile towards 6 o'clock, three o'clock nine o'clock 12 o'clock and put the the last tile on top of it so that I can take this into my hands, understand the structure of it, and play with it. We are taking learning from a 2D level to a 3d level with the taxonomic reader space. And if you want to take this one step further. I have here a graphic that shows a cathedral and at the same time I have a 3d model Again, that is said as a metallic magnetic surface. I'm going to place this onto the tactronome breather. 3d model Paris Sacre. And the system will tell me exactly where to place it. Place it. I'm adding the second layer of information. Announce titles and descriptions. And now, since the camera detects the position of my finger. I can just place my finger anywhere on the 3D model. Isle and chapel ring. Explain what I have under my finger in this case it also tells me gives me the sound of the space, which indicates to a blind person the sheer size of the room. If I place my finger somewhere else dome and choir with alter rooftop of the cross vault, rooftop of the central nave southeast tower with pointed dome. Think of… what you can do in math. In biology in chemistry in the arts. There is no limit to what you can do from taking 2D learning into the third dimension and understanding like anyone else with your finger how such a complex structure like this cathedral is set up. And on top of that, I have here the 2D representation, which I can also understand. Rose window church window with state. And again, compare with the structure of the 3D model. The next thing that I'm going to show you is something that is almost finalized. You need a couple more weeks. But we're really happy about that. Measuring. This is a silent graphic. It has no areas with audio. And what we're trying to do here is use the fact that we have the camera and can work with QR codes. So I have here in my hand a ruler. We call this the magic ruler that has a QR code At the starting point. And another QR code on the slider so that I can measure distances. And I'm going to start explore ruler interaction. And let me see, what could I measure? I would like to measure my smartphone. So I'm going to paste my smartphone onto the surface of the texasoneer flex. Slide the slider to the end of it and press enter. So what happened here? The camera scanned both QR codes, measured the distance, and tells me the precise distance between them. But I can also put this in any any onto the surface of the tecton redeflex. It is magnetic, so it holds in space. True point. Two inches and gives me the exact amount or the exact distance. You can obviously measure somewhere else next to the Tektonum reader then transfer system and have it read out to you. The next… Main menu. Smart learning tool that we have provided is… Explore object. It's a protractor and it has the same idea I have a protractor with QR codes on them and a movable I don't know what you would call this. That you can measure with and what happens now is that the camera scans these three QR codes and calculates starting from the left. And calculates the angle. 55 degrees. 140 degrees. And the last thing that I wanted to show you is is that we not only have a magic ruler and a magic protractor. But I also have here a magic compass. I have here a marker that I can put into the position. Again, there is a magnet that sticks to the surface. And now I can have the distance measured by the tectonometer flex. And just draw the circle that I'm interested in. If I do this on swell paper, I can just take the swell paper, run it through either detected on the transformer or the PF or the Zykin and can and exit set with my fingers. To see what I have created. So these are the smart learning tools that we have created. There's obviously more to come. And it gives you so many possibilities from working with the arms of the clock to 3D models to all these measuring tools that I've shown you. This takes from our perspective learning to a different level. And the next thing that I would like to show you is what we call smart learning apps. That's also a new development that We're almost ready, but not 100% ready. I'm going to show you here. This is a silent graphic. It has no areas with audio. So let me start. Explore. Explore, explore, contractor, validate equation. So since we have the possibility to work with small QR codes. We also have the possibility to put I'm not sure if you can see this. Braille does onto small tiles that again are magnetic that I can put onto the surface of the tachometer. I have here, I'm going to place here an equation that says 8 times 8 equals 64. What happens now is the camera scans each qr code and automatically does the calculation and tells me if I'm right or wrong. The equation is correct. 64. So it calculated 8 times 8 equals 64. I did it correctly. And the nice thing is they have these, I don't know what you call this, they fit together. Please place them very closely together or space them whatever way I want. Now I'm going to invert the 64 and turn this into a 46. So the equation is suddenly not correct anymore. The equation is not correct. It detects the QR code and tells me, no, A times 8 is not equals not 64. So I'm going to correct this again and do something which has no sense whatsoever. I'm going to place a divide by sign right in front of the equation. I'm going to press enter again. The left expression is not valid. So it even tells me which part of the equation in this sense is not correct. Now, most of you probably are aware of the matte window. We think that we have created here a smart math window which enables you to work with any mathematic. Equation or problem and gives you, again, new possibilities for learning. So we call this intelligent learning apps And there's not only the math app that I just presented, but there are games that are coming. And again, there is no limit to what you can think of for learning purposes. With these smart ties that they're using. So the final area that I wanted to share with you is just a number of different graphics so that you can see in which areas the taxonomy reader is relevant. And here the first one is ARC, the office in Germany. I'm going to read in the graphic. Full plan office. The entrance to the… It tells me where to start. I just want to highlight one or two things here. Elevator. You'll find the control panel on the wall to the left of the door when entering the elevator. Third floor, inventive o second button from above. This is information that is helpful. And then I'm in front of the door. The front door. The bell button is to the right of the doorframe. Helps me too. And now I can give you an overview over the office and treeway this is the focal point of the office The front door is in your back. The room's in a clockwise direction are, at nine o'clock, the walk to the server room and the bathroom. At 10 o'clock the conference room, at 12 o'clock the laboratory, at about 1 o'clock the individual office. At 3 o'clock the open plan office. And now if I wanted to know, you know. Martin's desk. Where my colleagues are seated or where obstacles are. Open Plan Office behind Eva's desk. Or that's the most important point in our office. Kofi machine, water bubbler and milk frother on base cabinet. Coffee machine, second button from the left, espresso or toilet bowl. That also can be important information. We give this. Graphic to all our new employees so that they know where things are and find their way around more easily. And… We believe that by explaining them where things are that they increase their autonomy that way. The next graphic that I'm going to show you here is the periodic table of the elements, and I'm going to show that to you because I don't think there is one graphic in school that contains more information. The periodic table of the… Obviously, the periodic table of the elements exists for blind people today. But… If you want to know what one element represents, then you have to go to your laptop, find the element and all the details to it. Good luck. Coming back and finding the same the same element again. Here I just placed my finger on to the element. Silver. Symbol ag group 11 period 5 I can pause this and continue. Atomic number. 47. So I have absolutely all the information under my fingertips. And that helps you to understand why one element is next to the other, what is the difference between them and so on. Now I'd like to show you two graphics that are destined for smaller children showing them that using detective senses is fun. So this is a worm and a worm in a labyrinth. And I'm using that with an explore mode that we call explore object. Explore objects. Now I don't have to press the button. I'm starting here. Start. And I'm following these very, very thin lines. They're really hard to touch. And I'm going to one relative sound to the next. Now I'm going to hit a wall. I hope you can hear this. This is Crossroads. Wrong way. Really wrong way and at the end… I'm done. Well done menu. And the idea here is to work with in a playful way but it helps you understand the structure that is in front of you because sooner or later you will feel, no, I've already been here when you trace back and forth. And understand don't you understand what we call masters of the space in front of you. And kind of the same idea is with the next graphic which is which is the memory game that we've all played when we were small and that is um Animal's memory. You have to find pairs of the same animals and we do this with sounds. Rooster. Now you have to find the second rooster. And it sounds easy. But if you close your eyes and have to remember where you were when you heard that sound. That is really difficult. But it's important to have the idea, where was I, where am I, so that you get the intuition of the intuition distances and where things are. I always find it very interesting that when I close my eyes and do a certain distance with my fingers, I cannot tell you how many inches that is or centimeters that are. But it's blind? Learner has to have that intuition. It's with these kind of games that you can learn that in a fun and playful way. Before I'm going to show you the… the database in the tactile graphics, I wanted to show you this last graphic. I'm going to reduce it. Announce only titles. An amount of information. And with this, I want to show you how creative you can become With the text will be deflex. So this is about learning Braille. And we were looking for a way to make it easier and more fun to learn Braille. And said, why not address the strengths that blind people have, which is the hearing and the musical sense. If we could somehow transform The Braille alphabet into musical sounds, then it might be more fun and easier to learn. And this is what we're trying here. We associate to each of the 6.1 specific sound sounds like this. I need to read in the graphic again. Hold on. Learn Braille. This graphic… So, this is .1. Two, three. So high, high, medium, low. 4, 4, 5, 6, the same idea, different instrument With these six sounds, I can replicate the whole Braille alphabet. If I take the L, One, two, three, four, five, six are not shown. I can replace the 456 with a knocking sound. So the L would sound this way. And when we're in the same room together, I always like to invite people to now tell me what the next letter is. I'm going to play it twice I'm going to do it again. So this was the letter G. And I presume that a lot of you are very illiterate and if you were able to to understand it that fast. Well done. You are able to read Braille with your ears. Congratulations. Of course, this is not enough to learn RAIL, but it shows you that there's a fun way of teaching and learning Braille. And it shows you how creative you can become with the touch of a reader flex. With that, I am going to switch my camera again and i will would like to now show you where the the graphics come from? And with that I'm going to switch mine. Camera here. Just be one second. 

Soâ I'm sharing my screen with you now. So what you will see now is The database of the nonprofit organization Probeline that contains all the graphics. It has all the graphics. And I would like to point out here, you can see there are 4,305 tactile graphics. In… in the database from all ranges, you see a lot of math graphics But not only, math graphics because we are in a project financed by the European Union where we are currently creating 1,250 learning graphics from first grade until graduation. Testing them with blind students and put them in the database. There are about 1,120 or so already in the database. And they will be released in the next couple of weeks until the summer they will all be there. So you can download them for free. So I'm going to show you a first. Graphic, which is a map europe and europe I'm going to choose this graphic. When my mouse hovers over this graphic, you can see that the color, I hope you can see that, that the color changes. I can pay information back to you. I hope you could hear that. But I can… But I can also show you the whole list of texts. The problem is all of this is in German. So what good does that do? For you if you want to have a map of Europe, you'd like to have it in English. So that's why I have the possibility to clone this graphic. You want to go to clone, choose English. From the United States. I'm going to delete this graphic. Afterwards, I'm going to show this. What happens now is The graphic is sent off to the Amazon web server. It's automatically translated using AI. And before I can even explain that to you, it's already back here. So now if I go to the text list, you can see all of that is suddenly in English. And the quality of the translation is amazing, gets better all the time. Not only is… the graphic not translated into English is also mine because obviously I cannot translate or change your graphic. I can only change my graphic. If I want to change something here, let's say I want to go to text list Adriatic, that's not quite correct. The Adriatic Sea. I can do so. I'm in the play database. I'm changing the context. I'm saving this now. And this is saved in the database. It's free. Everyone can someone else if they want to work with that graphic is able to do so. I can change The Braille table, if I want to, I can invite other people to work with me on On creating the graphic. But I could also add these interactions, the questions that we that I showed you earlier on. And I'd like to add in interactions which I'm going to call, which is a different kind of interactions. I'm going to take this specific one. And I'm going to call this interaction travel. And the idea is that I'm going to travel with your finger with your finger Germany to Spain, right? So that's what I wanted the student to do. I'm going to choose the starting point, which is germany Then I'm going to go to France and finally I'm going to edit Spain. I can work this also with a drop-down menu And I'm ready. It's taken me about, I don't know, two minutes, two and a half minutes. To create an interaction. And now I can run the interaction, test it. If I download the graphic, it'll automatically be on the technical reader flex and you can work with this. And, you know, you can just work with them. I can download this for swell paper. Then everything that's written in black will be automatically translated into Braille. And the break table that I've chosen, I can download it for braille embossing. You can see here the preview. That automatically works. And I'm going to do this again. You can download the labels for the QR codes and the markers for this graphic and just emboss it with your embosser. You can download this for if you want to edit it, for instance, you want to add the capital cities of each of the countries, you can do so. And finally, you can download it to put on a thumb drive and not go through the wireless system, but put it directly onto. Of the to the USB port on the text can be deflects. The final thing that I wanted to show you is how quick and easy you can create a new graphic. And here, I will show you, I'm going to create a graphic that's called Statue of Liberty. And add a very short description, which is in frontal view. I can choose the paper format, which here is going to be letter portrait, and the language is going to be English. Now I can either download the template and create the graphic in Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape, which is for free, or I can choose here open and design an app. This is what I'm doing now. And first, I'm going to download or upload the the graphic that I have downloaded from Wikipedia. This is the Statue of liberty It's right here. I'm clicking open and it automatically appears In my graphic, I can change the size, move it around, flip it if I wanted to. And when I'm unhappy, I'm going to press on audio, which opens up a toolbar. And here I'm just going to choose the circle, say this is the face. This is the face and then I have the torch, which is here I'm going to type this into the window that opens. On the bottom side of the page. I also want to say that this is the crown. And I'm going to use the open drawing tool to say that this is I'm going to delete this again. I'll do this again. So this is the the role. So I'm going to save this. I think, again, how long did this take me to do was that a minute or two really fast. I'm going back to the shared database and you can see here is The Statute of Liberty that we've just created with all of the Audio fields that we've added to it. It is really that simple.