TRANSCRIPT - Rolling out Tech in the Classroom

Alright, let me get our run through started so that we can be on time and have our Speaker start. Share my screen here real quick. Yeah. All right, good afternoon, everyone. You have arrived at Outreach Technology T time. We have a new tech feature episode today with math and Sam Dooley. Lake of the Pines, equation editor. So excited for him to tell us all about this and math. You know, it's one of my things. Rem that our goal for this session is to build our community of practice for technology and that we're, will allow us to support each other as we're out teaching our students in the spirit of that goal, T time is an interactive session. Where you are encouraged to converse and participate with the speaker, with me, with each other in a respectful manner. Let's remember our meeting norms and be advised that this session is being recorded and posted to our website for later viewing by other professionals. 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I'm here to share with you information about a software program that I wrote while I was at IBM research and while I wrote while I was at IBM research and while I was at Pearson assessments called the Accessible Equation Editor, which is a web application. For supporting online accessible Braille math. Hopefully those putting those 4 words in the same sentence hasn't put you to sleep just yet. I know we've got some folks who are excited about math and that makes me excited too because I'm always Happy to speak to those who are working with Braille students with math. It's a very difficult. Subject to communicate. Braille, math accurately. With our students and so I want to be able to provide tools that will help do that. See if I. Okay, there we go. Okay, so You can access the accessible equation editor. From the lake Pines Braille website at Lake Pines Braille. Calm slash AE. Free for individual and instructional use. And any other way that you want to use it, just come send me an email. I'm sure we'll find a way to work it out. I've had some people ask for versions of the software that they can run without having to connect to the internet. We can work on those kinds of things, other kinds of circumstances. Are all good as well. But I just wanted to make this version of the license so that I could post it on my website and people can go to it try it out and see what it's all about. As I mentioned, this is about online accessible Braille math. So the software. Helps to create documents. That contain text. That contain math that contain Braille all within the same document. The goal is to be able to support math formulas within literary context, no matter how they might appear. If you look at a printed textbook, you're used to seeing formulas that are in displayed format. Often their own space. You may be interested in seeing maybe Experience with seeing formulas in in line context within a paragraph. Also may be used to seeing sequences of formulas. We want to be able to support all of those within the accessible equation editor. Now we want to be able to make these documents. Available for Braille readers so that Braille readers can participate in the entire process of creating the documents? Sharing them, reading them, modifying them, and everything. And so as you're interacting with the accessible equation editor, One way of interacting with it is using Nemmith Braille Math. Within contracted UEB context. That's the Braille that the equation editor is set up to support. So I want to do some demos. Let's see if I can successfully switch my screen share. I may have to end the slideshow to do that. Okay, we're going to do that, but I'll be back here in one moment as we share a different window here. This tada. Okay, so this is the basic appearance of the accessible equation editor. You have an input area where you can type things, you've got buttons along the top that can be Keyboard navigated and they have some tool tips that tell you what they are. There are a lot of other palettes of symbols along the side. I can actually go to my settings and say I want to open all of the pallets just to show you. Range of the types of symbols that are supported by the accessible equation editor. And if you're used to using math editors, some of these concepts may be familiar. Turn that off for now. But I can just start typing away. I can say the general. Quadratic equation? And as I'm typing text, the equation editor is responsible for creating contracted English Braille for the text. Want to type a displayed math equation. I can hit the special key to create one and I can type a x squared plus vx plus c equals 0. Hey, wait a minute. That's not the quadratic equation that I learned in school. Well, it actually is the quadratic equation. It's The solutions that we had, solutions. Like if I can type today of the form. Can type now x equals fraction minus b. Plus or minus b squared. I forgot my square root. See, now you know it's a live demo because I'm going to be making so many typing mistakes today. But I can type all of these math formulas just as I would. In any kind of visual math editor. But the trick is I can also create these formulas by typing in. Nemoth Braille. So if I Create another equation here. I can set my input. So that the home row keys on my computer keyboard simulate a Braille device. So now I can type A by typing dot one. Which on home road keys is the F key. And and then X is 1 3 5 6. Exponent is 5 6 2 is dot 2 3 return to baseline plus BX. Plus c equals is 4 6 1 3 0 and I can create the same equation. You using Braille from the home road keys on my keyboard or if I have an attached Braille display, I can use the Perkins keys on the Braille display to create the same. Now the nice thing about this is is that once the equation is created, it's created in a markup language. Based on XML, here's what it looks like. Don't expect you to read very much of that, but the idea is that look, Ma, no Braille. There's really no Braille here in the document representation. All the Braille is being provided by the equation editor. So once these equations are created, they're exactly the same document markup. Exactly the same formulas. You can't tell which one of these I created using a query keyboard or which one I which ones I created using the. An attached Braille display. Go ahead. That is so cool. Sam, sorry. This is Donna. Question about the keyboard entry. Yes! Does it does it only work with an attached keyboard like say a laptop keyboard or will it work with a Bluetooth keyboard? Because other 6 key entry. It should work just fine with the blue, Bluetooth keyboard. I've, There is nothing specific about the way in which the keyboards are attached. To the I'm using a laptop and a browser. I should have mentioned a little bit earlier that my primary development environment is a Windows environment using the Chrome browser. I have tested it on many other Windows browsers. I haven't done as much testing with Apple browsers lately, but it has worked on those browsers and times past and I do have some porting work to do there to get that. And we Make sure that that's as reliable as on the Windows platform. But whether the keyboard is attached using Bluetooth or a direct connection shouldn't make any difference. I've also just run this kind of a demo using a device. Let's see which one it which is the Braille device that has the query keyboard attached to it. The mantis? No, not the Mantis. The, yeah. The mantis, yes, thank you for that. Yes, the Mantis device, somebody that I was. You are 40, yes. I was that I was working, would I that I had a zoom call with had a mantis device and so I just flipped the demo to where that he could type using his mantis display to create all of these same expressions and other content. So. Amazing. Okay, Deborah has said hello to us. She comes in from Ecuador to watch us on Thursday. Hello, Deborah. Welcome to Deborah. And Sandra had a question. She says, this is amazing. Will it work with the tiger embosser? Oh, I'm so glad you asked about in Boston. Okay, so give me a second. I want to run through some of these menus that are attached here. Now you just saw me doing some simple typing in. If I wanted to keep typing, I could create all kinds of other things, but I could also go out and load a file from my file system that I already created called quadratic. HTML. Open that up and it actually solves the entire process, right? It shows you here's how you step through going from the general equation to the formula for the solutions. I typed all this in myself. I didn't tell you which mode that I use. A Braille user could type all of this in equivalently. But now there are going to be things that when I create these documents that I want to be able to do with them. So. So I want to be able to Export this document as an HTML document. So here's an HTML document. If you're familiar with the Mathjax library, I can get to the My Mathjax menus with this particular version of the document. Because I can export this document as plain old HTML. And because I can export it as HTML, I can print it as HTML to a PDF file. And so imagine a Braille user. Being able to create a PDF file using this tool. And then they can share it with somebody who wants to interact with the man visually. I can also create a BRF file. Here's what the BRF file happens to look like for this. Some of you could probably read this. Okay. I can come close to some of it. You know, you can figure out some of the contractions as you look through here and oh goody my page numbering happens to be working in this case so I've got a page one down at the bottom. The other left to the right hand corner Alright, and there are ways of saying Let's see if I go in here back into my settings. I can set my page size in terms of the width of the page, number of Braille columns, page height. The number of Braille lines. So I've got it set right now for a. Sell with with 25 lines in the page and I'm generating page numbers. So that BRF file. My understanding this could be that that BRF file could be saved and sent directly to a tiger embosser. And we're still on early days of people actually doing that because unfortunately I don't have an embosser sitting in front of me. They're kind of expensive, so I don't have one. But my understanding is, is that when this output is generated as a BRF file, that there are multiple ways of sending those BRF files to your embosser. I know that. Many of you made little Malian bird at Texas School for the Blind and she has tried out a couple of these things by loading the BRF files into Duxbury and printing it that way. Some of your embossers attach directly to the print menus. That Windows provides and so you can send the BRF file directly to the embosser without having to go through Duxbury. All of this is second hand. I have not had a chance to try out many of these things that I'm saying about that. But I also can export a rail file that looks like Simbrail. Terms of being able to let a sighted person preview what the dots should look like. When it gets printed in something that they can do some copy editing on. What that looks like. Well, you are in the right group for those to try and do it. For you. And I would love people to grab some of these files and try to emboss them and let me know what they find. And Megan is asking for the website again. Could you repeat it for us so I can type it in the chat? Like pines. I got it for you.com. Yes, I can. It's right here. I might, if I'm really good. I might be able to hut and paste. There you go. Oh, you meet it. You got it to me before I got it even tight. There we go. Copy link. Well, copy and I when in doubt don't retype copy and paste, right? Cuts down on errors that way. Alright, so the idea. Yes, yes. Okay. So there we go, Megan. We have one more question from Michelle. Go ahead. That's quite all right. I'm sorry to interrupt you there, Sam. She goes, can this be used on Mac or does it need to be in Windows? It's written in JavaScript. And so all of the code should run inside the browser, but there are portability issues with running web content on the Mac. This thing has to do a lot with key keyboard events that have changed over the years between one platform and another. And I know that there are likely to be issues running this thing on a Mac. But I would like to if somebody wants to use it has a Mac. I would love to be able to work with you and get this thing back up to snuff on that platform. So that I can make sure that that's going to be available for folks. It is my intention that it works there. But I know that there are going to be some issues there. So your mileage may vary on that, but thanks for the interest in that. Other questions? Okay. That's not where do I want to go next? Oh yes, okay, so this was some of the math capabilities of the system. The program is written in JavaScript and has its own Braille translation library coded in JavaScript as part of the editor. So I'm not using lib Louie. I'm not using Duxbury. I have my own library that's running inside the browser. So if I close this document or maybe I want to go take a look. Some other files that I have lying around. Oh yes. Let's see. This one will do. So just a simple file with some basic contractions. And so hopefully you can see that. See I've got all kinds of things coming up on the screen here that I want to. Get out of my way. There you go. So there's a simple sentence that uses just single letter contractions. It's kind of a nonsense sentence, but you cannot quite have it just as people will like. And then the Braille output, you'll see the single. Braille cell contractions for those words. As it goes along. You can. Actually, you can in the settings page. Control which rail contractions are in play. And so the equation editor is set up to respond to that if I don't want any contractions at all. It will spell out the words which were previously contracted. And so it's dynamic in that sense. Exactly, that's the idea. Go ahead. Oh, that is great. Sam, for our littles that are learning, Braille. We had, Michelle say that was fantastic and we had Jordan ask if the equation editor would work on the Braille note. As far as I know, the answer is yes. I am not able to check out every single Braille device that's out there, but I know that they are divided into 2 different classes. Those that are Braille terminals and those that are Braille note takers, which somehow I believe don't have as quite as much functionality. So for those Braille devices that connect to the screen reader and to your PC class device that you can use those Braille devices to control the equation editor directly. For those Braille devices that don't work in that mode, then the BRF files that you can export will also work in a notetaker kind of mode where you load the BRF file onto the device and can read it from there. Huh. And again, that's all specific to the Braille devices and I know that everybody on this call probably knows more about them than I do, so I should probably shut up about that other than to say that yes, the idea is that it should work with all of those devices. Okay. Well, that will be another thing we have to try for you and Gregory. Oh man. The chat is busy today. Alright, excellent. I am loving this. Gregory, ask, does it accept math ML or latex or lawtex? I never know how to pronounce that or does it have to be entered manually? Mathemale yes, Latex no. Mathemat is yes, latex is no so if I go back to one of these files that I had opened before I'm gonna show you quadratic. Dot HTML again. And when I go and look at the source for this document. The document is stored in HTML with Content Mathml inclusions for those that are familiar with Mathml? So all of these are XML and this is the source that gets saved. When I read the document back in, I expect content Mathml so that I can recreate all of the math formulas in a way that's editable. When I export it to HTML, That's not what I wanted to do. I wanted to look at the HTML source. There it is, which has a HTML plus presentation Mathml inclusions that can be rendered directly in the browser with either the Google, Chrome, Native Mathml support or with the Mathjax library. As far as law tech is concerned, law tech is its own programming language and I'm not. Supporting Lottech right now, but there is a lot of work going on with Law Tech and doing fun things with it that would let it interact with the type of content Mathml that I've been described that I'm describing here. Did that answer your question? That is awesome. And I, this is Donna again and Gregory says yes. Thank you very much. Excellent. Thank you. I think that opens up some options for us that we've not had before as TDIs. And Absolutely. Alright, so I wanted to come back here because one of the things I wanted to show is if I go back into one of the Braille input modes. Then as I type I'm typing now. She RTGR TGR sign. Asterisk. N and it knows how to recognize that as the short form. Great, great grandchildren and expanded. One word at a time as I'm typing in contracted Braille. That mode is available to the Braille input modes. It will expand. BRILL contractions as a type. For sighted users, you get what you type because you expect to get what you type as a sighted user. But in either case, The Braille that's produced is the contracted English Braille that would go to the Braille device. In terms of the Braille, contracted Braille support, I could talk for a very very long time about all that goes into that, but just a sampler here. Here are some modified letters that are defined by UE, UE, UEB and how that we're supporting those. So in that same mode where I'm typing Braille, I could type. Tilde slash and get an accented A with an acute accent. If I type tilde. A. I get an A with a Krabi accent. If I type tilde, ampersand, CI get a C with a sedia over it and so on. So there are all these modified letters that can be typed in directly in Braille and included in the document. One that I like to highlight that I found in the Unicode book at 1 point really made me smile since I'm. Recently lived in Albuquerque where in addition to putting a sedia under the letter C. We often put a sedia Under the letter K. And we get, guess what? A caseadia. Oh my goodness, that was a good one. So in case you wanted to snack today. Then I brought enough for everybody. So there's your dad joke for the for the day. Awesome. Oh, that was a good dad joke. This is Donna. And that we have some New Mexico folks that think this is awesomely funny. Excellent. Alright, so now that's So, so far I've just been interacting with files that I happen to have lying around on my local machine. I did want to spend some time and show what can be done with the accessible equation editor and its ability to interact with Google Drive as a shared file system. So, So there's a drive menu here that allows me to open or save files from Google Drive. And I've got some predefined documents that I wanted to show some folks. One of them has to do with a collection of algebra materials brought to my attention that may lean bird showed me. And And now to open this file I have to choose an account. That's who I am and so that will give me access to the Google Drive. This is Blue Pelican Math and so this is algebra one the first semester. That Malene and I have been working on translating into the accessible equation editor. You can see how far we've gotten. We've gotten units 1, 2, 3, and 4. But I can click on any of these links within the accessible equation editor and what it will do is it will go out to Google Drive. Find the document referenced by this link. And load it into the accessible equation editor. So now I'm looking at unit one basic operations and I see all of the lessons that are included in unit one including the review and the quiz. Now this is the teachers version of the syllabus and so when I go to some of these lessons let me go to lesson one. Order of operations and it goes through and explains order of operations, gives some examples and works them through for the student and then the objective of course is to provide an assignment. Where the students would have just the problem statement and then they would have to work through the example. And since this is the teacher's version, it has the solutions to all of the examples. And so this is unit one lesson one Going backward a little bit, one of the ones I wanted to show was inequalities because one of the things that shows up pretty early in the algebra course is the ability to draw number lines. And so here's an example that has some number lines in it. Where negative and positive numbers are being illustrated. I'm drawing the number lines. Braille in the document. Simply by typing the Braille symbols in verbatim. That is, I've instructed the equation editor to take the Braille symbols and show them directly in the dock. So these are a little bit different than at taking Braille input. It's just taking the Braille and stuffing it into the document uninterpreted. And then I can create things like number lines just by inserting the proper Braille symbols. So I can Do all of the illustrations that were needed for a sample lesson on number lines and on positive and negative numbers. So I've got the text, I've got the math, I've got the number lines. Even got tables to where that you can create this kind of a table. That has a combination of both text and math in it to illustrate a particular concept. And so this is the entire lesson. For inequalities. And now, just so that you know that all I'm doing here is just showing off. I'm gonna go back again now. All the way out. And inside unit 4. We have a similar kind of lesson that says solving perimeter and area word problems. And what's the first thing that you want to do with these kinds of problems? You want to be able to draw some simple diagrams. And so again, just by typing in the Braille literally, you remember the whole concept of creating diagrams with ASCII art? Well, this has to say very much the same kind of field to it. And then I just typed in these Brill. Symbols literally to get a small diagram that is well somewhat suggestive of a rectangle with a perimeter with length and width. Where that you can then Explain what the labels are and provide the formula for the perimeter. Same with the circumference of a circle. Perimeter of a triangle. Then some examples. In this example, the The teacher will set this up and they will work through the example to W plus 2 times W plus 9. It was 54. The idea is is that this is the teacher's version. Of the lesson. Now I'm going to jump over to the student version of the syllabus. Go ahead, go ahead while I'm switching over here. Yes. Sam, this is Donna. We have 2 questions. Or 3 questions. Do you primarily work in Google Drive first and then switch to the AE web application? That's the first question. From Gregory. You can you can do both that is what I haven't shown you here is is that I can go to my Google Drive. This is my Google Drive space. And so if I drop in here into some of these algebra lessons and navigate the Google Drive. Files I can now come to here where I can look at the student syllabus. For these lessons. I can double click on it and it will start Google Drive on that file. Sorry, from Google Drive, it will start the accessible equation editor and load that file into the accessible equation editor. So I've basically done the work of telling Google Drive. Here's a special file type and this is what I want you to do with that file type so that you can load it inside the accessible equation editor. So that is one way that you can work. It's primarily in Google Drive and then switching over. But I want to make it as convenient as possible to work things within the accessible equation editor as well. So you notice that I have been navigating around. Using these document links. And And that way it saves some steps, really don't have to go back and forth to Google Drive to do some of these things. Did that answer that first question then? Sure. And I think, Gregory continues a little bit more before we jump to the next question. I'm assuming you go back in after to add tactile graphics. Yes. Very cool that it's highlighting the next question. It's I'm assuming you go back in after to add tactile graphics That's a very good question about tactile graphics. My expertise is on algebraic and symbolic math and not on tactile graphics. I know there are a lot of people who've put a lot of work into creating good tactile graphics and I'm not gonna claim. That anything that I'm showing here is high quality tactical graphics for any of these. Problems that we were taking a look at. Let's see. Where do I want to be? But. Clearly there are other things that we could do to include. Visual and Braille graphics into these documents that would be additional features that we'd like to be able to support. So. Yes, there's some work to do there as far as tactile graphics. Yes. Awesome. This stone again and Diana has a question. She says, can you add textbook page numbers for the student. For when the teacher refers. That's a very good question. Since this is an electronic document. The electronic document. Doesn't come with the printed page. When you generate a BRF file or something to be embossed. You give it a page length and so it can add the Braille page numbers to the Braille pages as it's generating them. But I have not done any Deep thought on how to include. Printed page numbers in some in something that's in an electronic format that doesn't have it. The page numbers supplied for you. Now, I should mention that one of the things that I have been able to support is transcriber notes. And so there are ways of adding that kind of annotation into the document. I suspect that I could do something for printed page notes. To page numbers that would follow a similar kind of a scheme. That is, I would have some way of saying, aha, here is where page number N begins. And so make a note of that in the Braille form of the document. I know there are certain standards for how to do that. I don't have enough expertise to say. This is how it should be done, but clearly. With a little consultation on how that should be done. That's the kind of thing that I would want to be able to support with this as well. Yes. Awesome. And Sandra, this is Don again. Sandra had a question. Do you have a template for long division problems in a spatial format? Very good question about spatial formats. Very early days as far as spatial formats are concerned. I have some work on. The type of verbatim mode that I was showing for number lines, I have some work on how to lay out Braille tables. But I don't yet have a template for laying out long division formats, but what I would like to see is some way of having a visual way of entering long division that is that you could lay out the different pieces of the tableau. And how they relate to each other. And have an automatic way of taking that. Visual representation and translating it into a proper Braille two-dimensional spatial layout. Don't do, I don't do that yet, but I did want to show in some of the other documents. I'm gonna take this opportunity now to jump to another document that I've been working on. And that is imagine now that we had the Nimuth Braille spec as an electronic document. We Well, I don't have the whole thing. I've only been working on a couple of sections, but I can show for example rule 12 Which is about fractions. There are a lot of different examples for how to lay out fractions including in here some spatial arrangements of fractions. Some of these in the net in the NEMO spec are particularly complicated. Sadly, I just typed these in by hand. I'm not yet supporting spatial layouts of complex fractions. Most of the complex fractions that I am producing are being produced in linear form and there are some examples of that also in the Nemoth Braille spec. And But the idea is that with an accessible document like this, you can actually take a look at in the Nema spec. This is what NEMO. Expects it to look like. This is what the equation editors producing, how close are we getting to things like spatial layouts and other than the spatial layouts for the fractions. The different levels of fractions are actually pretty accurate. For this. So some progress in the notion of spatial layouts, not as much as I would like yet, but still some work to be done there. More questions. Thank you, Sandra. That was a great question and it looks like we've run out of questions. So back to you. Awesome. Okay, so I just wanted to give this quick. Example here because We can imagine now using the accessible equation editor to produce materials that can be used to teach math. That can be or that can be used to teach rail. And so because we can include text and we can include Braille symbols and we can include math formulas. The same kind of Exposition that you see in the Nema spec can be used here now electronically as well so that you can read off the sentence in x squared the 2 which is elevated in print and here's an example of a transcriber note. Is called a subscript. And then here's the Nemoth Braille that that was given in the spec. For representing that sentence and then we can look down here and say aha. If we find ourselves where the Braille is. Or we locate ourselves. On our Braille device. Yes, this is open parenthesis number sign one close parenthesis. You Cap IN. Open math x squared close math comma Numbers. Number 2. Transcribers Note elevated in print. So on with the text is a superscript. And so I can compare the Braille that I'm generating with the Braille that's in the Nema spec by having both the literal form of the Braille and the visual form of what needs to be translated and translating that into Braille. Yes. Go ahead. This is Donna again. Diana has a question. She noticed that when you scroll to the top view, the translated view isn't scrolling at the same time. Can they be linked to move? No, that's a very good point. I do indeed want them to be able to link that way. When I click on a particular place in the visual format, the Braille in the bottom. Panels should track. But the scrolling between the 2 panels is not yet tracking. And I need to do some work to make sure that that's tracking properly. Now that's also related to the fact that I want to be able to control and provide control for this bottom braille panel. So that you can tell me how many lines of Braille do you want to see there. Now, depends for the intention of the Braille is that this should be sent to a Braille device and so you would typically expect one line of Braille to be output to the Braille device and that this was only created so that the sighted user could have a reference to this is the braille that expects to go down to the Braille device. And so I wanna be able to say how many lines of Braille do you want here and treat this panel as if it were a virtual page. So to speak. And then I'm might be able to have some thoughts on who can we deal with this in terms of multi-line Braille devices, but that's still in progress so I shouldn't say too much you have. That was my next question actually, Sam. I shouldn't say too much about that yet because there are some multi-line rail displays out there but Being able to send them Braille reliably? Using a screen reader in a way that they can put the Braille where the application wants it. Is still an open question, so we're working with some of the Braille device manufacturers to see if we can't get some of those things working. And great answer. I was wondering about that multi line device myself. So we'll have to watch out for that. Exactly. Go ahead, Gregory. Gregory has a question. Our format options available for UEB Math and Science and UEB with NEMIS. Okay, so current state of play with the accessible equation editor is that I support contracted English Braille and we looked at some of the options for turning the contraction rules on or off so you can actually still use completely uncontracted Braille. For the literary text. But for math, what I'm supporting right now is Nemeth Braille only right now. And it's my intention that for the work that that I've been able to do to translate between Nemeth Braille and Content Mathml that if I have an opportunity to do the same work with UEB technical. That you would have something on your settings page that would allow you to switch back and forth between Nemeth Braille and UEB technical in how you get the math in the document. Now that doesn't change the document representation. But it does change the Braille that's generated. From the markup. So I'd like it to be the case that Just in the same way that you can't tell whether a sighted or a Braille user. Created a math formula? That you not be able to tell whether somebody created it in Nemith. Braille or created it using UEB technical. But it could be delivered to student that uses one math code or the other at their preference on the settings in the equation editor. Not quite there yet, but that's one of the things I'd like to have on my roadmap. Great question and back to you. Okay, so We've taken a look now at some of the Algebra lessons, we've taken a look at the Nemoth Braille. The equation editor can also be used. To teach you how to use the equation editor. Fancy that that I'm using my own stuff. So here are a few documents that I've been able to put together on what I'm calling so far special topics. That is documents that provide some extended descriptions and instructions. For creating certain forms. And a lot of the questions that have come up today would make for great documents here that I could link from this page. So how do I create addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions? Mix numbers, number lines, tables, oh my, all of these things, us. Spatial arrangements for long division would be a great document to link in from this point. If when that support becomes real. And so my hope is that the list of these special topics continues to improve so that if you want, for example, to learn how to create number lines. You go to that number line document and loan me hold there's some examples that say here are the number lines and oh here are the The rules and some of the special symbols that you'll need and some things that you could copy and paste from this document into whatever. Document that you'd like to be able to create. Okay. Dot dot dot Now, I'm happy to answer lots of other questions. But I wanted to kind of give a chance to. Kind of wrap this up a little bit, maybe put some conclusions on it. Normally I would switch back over to the PowerPoint slides to do that and see if I can do that now, but I'm happy to jump back to the demo if we need to or if people have other questions. So let's see if I can hit this properly. Now I need to hit the screen share button How are we doing there? Conclusion slide. We are back, yes. Alright, so the idea is that the accessible equation editor allows both sighted and blind visually impaired users to create and exchange accessible text plus math. Online documents. Your Braille students can create documents that a cited teacher. Can consume and vice versa. If you're a TVI and you're trying to assist these folks who Don't know where you have the student that's trying to learn the math and the teacher that's trying to learn the Braille that you can act you can have a tool that access a resource for helping to bridge that gap. Between the 2 and have the resources that you need to be able to. Go. Create Braille content. That's usable by both communities. It is the AE is a single application that creates literary and mathematical content. Using Nimuth Braille in UEB context as a primary input method. My goal is that anything that you've seen me do here today with the Accessible Equation Editor. Should be doable and accessible. To a Braille user. Without having to take their hands off of their external brail device. Now there are going to be some things from time to time we're returning to the computer keyboard might be more convenient. But there should be a way of making these things happen just by interacting from Braille. I mentioned the JavaScript rail translation library that is a part of the accessible equation editor, supports contracted literary text. For document authoring you saw this some examples. There are law it's a fairly complete Braille translation library at this point and was tested using many of the examples in the rules of unified English Braille outside of chapter 11. So most of those should be accurate at this point. I have a test suite that numbers in the thousands of Braille, examples for. Contractions in both directions from plain text to Braille and Braille to plain text. And I ran them through Lib Louie and the JavaScript. Braille translation library that I created and I think I did better than, that's for other people to decide. So it's roughly the same level of translation quality as you get from something like lip So there's file I/O, cut and paste, HTML, Mathml, PDF. BRF all these file formats that the equation editor supports. I was able to show you some of them. And also be able to illustrate some of the Google Drive and Google Classroom integration. I didn't show Google Classroom, but clearly once you have integrated with Google Drive, Google Classroom, which is built on that, comes along for free. So you can start to imagine as a math teacher. Creating one form. A math lesson that could be communicated to both. Sighted and Braille users. Using an environment like Google Classroom. Alright. Future work. We mentioned earlier some of the porting issues. Obviously we want to continue to make this available on as many operating systems, browsers, screen readers and Braille devices as possible. I wish it were the case that the behaviors of all of these different players were standardized in some way that's better than they are but Where it works best right now as we mentioned earlier is on the Windows platform with. The Google Chrome browser but also the Firefox browser. I've tested extensively with both Jaws and NVDA and the Braille devices that I have. In hand right now include a focus 40. And a brilliant BI. And like I said, we've mentioned some of the other devices that we've had a chance to test out with. And the devices are not really the hard part. The operating systems and the browsers. Are much more challenging and to some extent the screen readers as well. Now for some of you that may be familiar with Mathemat, there's been a lot of progress lately in support for Mathml inside of browsers, in fact there's now native support for Mathml in the Chrome Chromium browsers and so the Mathjax library is not necessary for displaying math in a web browser, but the accessible equation editor still uses math checks internally. To do its math rendering and it also knows how to interact with math jacks when it creates HTML documents for viewing outside of. The accessible equation editor. Obviously, there's mathematicians are have infinite creativity and creating more math symbols. And so I have more work to do for creating palettes that include those symbols and support them. Right now I would describe the support as fairly good up through about trigonometry. In the past, it has supported calculus as well, but some of that support hasn't been tested in a while. And I need to go back around and make sure that it's going to be as. Hi, quality as I would like it to be. So obviously I want to be able to create more example. Documents and resources. And we have talked about. Using UEB technical that is chapter 11 of the UEB rules. Document and supporting that as an alternative way of encoding. Math, formulas. Inside the equation editor. Go ahead, question. Yes. Sam. This is Donna. Diana had a question. Oh, can you format, can your formats be controlled? Just headings, paragraphs, lists and runovers. Yes. Alright, so in case people wanted my contact information, here's the slide with my contact information on it. I'm gonna stop the screen share and I'm gonna come back to this. So that I can go back to. Let's see. I can show you some of the things that are on the settings page. No, not that one. Sorry. But, So I can do things like control the page with page height. I for my headings in the document, I can control whether they're presented as centered Braille headings or cell 5 or cell 7 headings. Braille provides basically 3 different styles for dealing with headings. And HTML provides 6 of them. So it's not a one to one mapping, but I give you enough control here to where that you can say which heading levels are presented in which styles. Little bit of control over indentation, first line and run over lines in different contexts. And let's see what other things. Things like page width and page height. So very rudimentary control over Braille formatting at this point, but if there are important features that can be easily controlled. I would be very interested in hearing what kind of formatting features are important to folks. And what could be included on a settings page like this that would help people control those that output. And thank you, Sam. And Sandra asked, are there going to be graphing options? Or are there grapping options? Graphing options. Once again, I many of you may be familiar with other programs that do online graphing and try to make it accessible. There's one called Desmos. And that's pretty much a different type of application than what I'm working on here. So right now I don't have any specific plans to do. Graphing of equations inside the equation editor. But one could imagine taking the types of markup and formulas that are generated here and communicating them to other pieces of software that could do a much better job of doing the graphing of the equations. So not something that's currently there, but that's a very good. Area of potential future work. We've had some great questions today, guys. Ladies and gentlemen. Absolutely. We have, let's see, there's Sam's information up on the screen. I've also put it into the chat if you'd like to copy and paste it. And Sam, if you. I would be pleased to. Get, emails from any of y'all with additional questions or if you have them and you'd like to ask them now, I think we have a few minutes left. Is that right, Donna? I can. We do have a couple of minutes left. If you. Can share, change the share with me so that I can give them out their resources. And they can keep asking questions as we go. Alright, I think I have stopped sharing, so if you need to share. You're good. Yep. Gotcha. Oh, right. So I've also included these. These links in the chat. If you missed any part of Sam today, you can hop on over to my AT website and the whole session recording today if you said I know he said something I want to look that up. Yeah, Jordan, the contact information, if you scroll up, it is in the chat, both the email and the website. And I will have this whole session recorded. In on my website, which again is linked in the chat or if you have a QR code and want to grab this QR code right now. That'll take you to the website. We. Okay, Donna looks like that I just tried to message everybody that the information that you just described that's already in the chat but it just went to you so I'm glad that you did that as well. Okay, so there is a message that just came in that in case. We need to let you know that the setup for T time is different than our coffee hour. The room for T time does require authentication to join. That means that the users have to have a Zoom account created. This is to protect us and our attendees from Zoom bombing. We don't want people to just come in and, you know, do things that we don't want them to do. On camera in front of a whole group of people. So if you're having trouble getting in, it's not that we require a password per se, we just require that you have a Zoom account created and that you are signed in. So if it is blocking you, Please try to sign in to your Zoom account and then try again. I know we had a couple of difficulties today. So official notice. Oh, we had a question come in from L. Brown. Why does the cursor use 2 cells? In the equation editor. The equation editor is. Fundamentally still a math formula editor. So in addition to being able to communicate the insertion point, how That is where the next Content will be inserted when you type it. Or You want to be able to communicate information about the scope of the current selection. So if you imagine a formula like the solutions to the quadratic formula, if you're deep inside that formula, you you might have selected the C. Where you might have selected 4 A/C where you might have selected B squared minus 4 A/C and so on. And so there are a couple of markers that will show up on the Braille display using dots 7 and 8. That will show both the current insertion position. And the scope of what expression is currently selected. Now that's just a quick overview of how the cursor works. Inside the accessible equation editor. And I know that there's probably still. Other questions that could be asked about that. So there's some more details as well. Awesome. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Joel. And she says, thank goodness the new bridge course. She needs it, but she can wait till September eleventh. If you absolutely need it right this second show, Joelen, please drop me an email. I will put that in the chat. That's Clemens D at TSBVI. Drop me an email at that and we will see if we can't get you the beginning parts of the course in hard copy so that you can get started before it's released. I it was pulling eye teeth but they wanted to release in October and I was like absolutely not we are releasing as close to August as we can. So September eleventh, new course for the Braille note touch. It is a teacher course that teaches you how to teach your kids and it includes all of my lesson plans with scripted lesson plans. Of what to say during your lessons when teaching your kiddos how to use the brown note touch. So excited. We've been working on that for almost a year now. A little over a year now and it will be released September eleventh. ATIA has new courses available. Most of these are free and for credit, so check them out. Our upcoming T times mark your calendars August 30 first is Bob B from Envision. He is going to be demonstrating the new features of the Envision. Glasses that include artificial intelligence. And if you know me, I am playing with them. I have my set here and I am so excited I've been playing with them for a week and they are amazing. September seventh will have no session September fourteenth adjust could get from region 10 is going to come and talk to us about VI and 500, and 4. We don't get a lot about this topic, so she's gonna come and fill us in September, 20 first, Louis Perez from Cast is coming to talk to us about UDL and on the 20 eighth Anita Swanson is coming in to talk to us about AT assessment. And IEPs and IFSPs. And I'm not gonna read the rest of these. We've only got, well, we've got about 5 min. So October, we're talking about O and M, we've got. 3 speakers for O and M. We have one session we're not going to have. No, we have. 1, 2, 3, 4. 5 folks. Coming to talk to us and November. Okay, November sixteenth is Still being determined, I have a possible speaker for us and I'm excited to get her to come and talk to us. So we're having everything from symbols to how to incorporate switches in your active learning. To how to make and use your own active learning technology. So excited for all of those. In December, we are talking vocabulary and other ECC type things outside of our usual ECC. We're gonna make a little stretch. We're talking about picking vocabulary within our. We're talking about picking vocabulary within our lessons for our students who are multiply impaired. So how do we get that bang for our students who are multiply impaired? So how do we get that bang for your buck vocabulary? That means more than just more, so how do we get that bang for your buck vocabulary? That means more than just more, more what. And so Shannon Page is going to come and talk to us about that. I'm so excited for this session. And then Stephanie Walker to wrap up our year. And then Stephanie Walker to wrap up our year is going to come in and give us our APH