TRANSCRIPT - Teaching VoiceOver >>Donna: So good afternoon. This is outreach tea time, and we are going to be talking about voice over the next level. You missed my last session. We'll talk about that in a moment. So our goal is to build a community of practice for technology and support each other when we're out teaching our students in the spirit of that goal, tea time is interactive join in in the chats, unmute yourself, interrupt me talk I am I'm kind. Of tired of hearing myself. Speak at this point in the year cause been doing a whole lot of talking. So please interrupt me bye registering for this session you're granting us the permission to publish the contents of the recording, which includes images or audio of you. All right. F. Oh, Cynthia! >>Cynthia: I thought it was obviously. >>Donna: Are you there? And I saw Beth kinda click on click off. Okay. So we are going to be an open discussion. 4 Ios. And voice over. So if you missed the first part of this session, you can go to my site, which I will put in the chat as well. And see the recording. If you do not see the site, they are the posting there, and you only see, say, this week's in last week's. You can go to my live binder and look under the tea time tab, and then, under 22 or 23, depending on which session you're wanting to look for. There's also other resources found on my site and in the live binder the live binder is in progress. If there's anything you'd like to see on both sessions or in tea time, please let me know. Okay. So last time we talked about all of the accessibility menu, and where to go to make a quick connect for voice over where to adjust that, you would use zoom and magnification and zoom is different than the app that we're using right now. But what we didn't quite get to, except for in the last few seconds, was to keep it simple apps native to the Ios device are compatible with voice over any third party app, that is something that you download from the app store is not guaranteed to be accessible with. Voice over you can still download it and try it, but there's no guarantee that it's gonna work, at least not work fully. There are guides and tutorials focusing on accessing native apps. So you can have the help, whereas with your third-party apps there's not a whole lot out there unless the app Creator decided to produce something mastering. Native apps, gives the students a sense of accomplishments, it benefits their understanding of app accessibility, navigation, and gives them most of the tools they need to function in class a lot of times. We don't turn on Siri, because they say they can look up answers, or whatever Siri is a great tool for our students, and set BC. Who, if you haven't explored, set bc.org. They have amazing resources. They've written a Siri Ios lesson plan with Leslan objectives and screenshots and everything. So the link is going to be on my on my handouts, and I will put them in the chat right now. So consider using. Siri. For your student who is learning Ios, who maybe hasn't gotten a full, a full grasp of navigation yet, and is still learning, or who hasn't gotten enough braille in to maybe use a braille display. To help do their tasks. I love this set. BC. That give us a case study on here, and everything so wonderful resource for you. Alright. So what are the native apps? That would be your calendar? Your clock notes reminder maps. Those are the first 5 that are automatically available when you get your device you don't have to download them. They're there. From those your student can learn to organize themselves, get their times for their schedule, take basic notes in class, set themselves reminders, and do some orientation and mobility navigation. What comes next are a little bit more robust tools. So if your word processing, you're really not gonna do a whole lot of word processing on your phone or your tablet. Usually you're gonna head on over to your Mac computer. Or if you're using a PC to your jaws computer and use a more robust program that doesn't mean you couldn't start on. Your phone or app. I do quite often on my tablet. Take notes on what my next assignment is, and set it up in my drive, so that I can then go to my computer and flesh that out and leading to drive file management, getting your kiddos to understand file management and Google Docs, or Google drive maybe dropbox depending on what your school is using and what programs they're using. And then the big one that we all discuss quite often when we meet up. And that is Google classroom, Edmodo blackboard schoology. All of those learning management systems. The accessibility for these are going to vary, especially when you're using a tablet for Ios. Again it varies the recommended procedure for a learning management system is, if you're doing heavy work. So you're completing assignments. You're turning things in, etc., to go to your computer and use either your Ios voice over or use jaws. Most of the the companies that I that I've talked to for learning media management software's say they don't necessarily. They make them basically accessible. But they're not 100% accessible. But they pay really close attention to jaws, because it's used by a majority of our students. And then to Mac users for voiceover on the Mac Laptop. Any questions so far before we go on and get into the next section. That kind of reviews. What we went over last time. Please feel free to stop me. Alright, next apps for reading some of these have gone away and come back, and it's a little bit difficult keeping up with some of the book reading apps. So I recommend going to the the site where you want to get it from such as book share. They list their apps there of what is supported, learning. Ally, Bard, Mobile and Apple books. So again, books, native app. The accessibility is better there than if you go to say the kindle app, because it is not a native apple app. It is not as accessible as the Ibooks caveat, on that they each depend on what material is being put in, so the app itself may be accessible, but, like any other app or program we use, it depends on the document. That is put in. Does that make sense to everybody? Are we all asleep? Hello! [MarLisa Jacobs] 15:16:05 Makes sense. Alright! Good! Thank you. Alright! So pdf. And document, scanning. We all know that Pdfs. Tend to be the bane of Argentina, because people assume, if they copy something on a copier and save it as a Pdf. It is an accessible document, and that is not the case. In most. Instances what we have now that is pretty awesome. Instead of going out to a third party, app apple has started relatively recently. If you take a picture of a document, then go to your photos. You are able to ocr optical character recognition on that document that you have taken an image of. So it processes the document for the student, which is awesome. Just listen to a student, this last weekend who uses that regularly to access her documents for high school and plans to use it for college because it allows her to be independent. Alright! The rotor! Oh, yup! Yup! [Linda Brown] 15:17:38 On, that. [Linda Brown] 15:17:42 On that note. What about the math? Is it reading it pretty well, or is it still kind of iffy? It's still kind of iffy on the math, but I've got something new coming up for you that I'm so excited at the end of this session when it comes to mathematics. Yes, you're right, Taylor. The voice over can read in the kindle app. It's just not you're right. It's just not as accessible in all the swipe feature for that. When you have, voice over on. If you want to have it, just read your book. I do this on the regular with my college books, I open them in the kindle app, turn on, voice over, and it's a 2 finger swipe down the screen for the read all command, and it will read and turn pages for you as long as you don't change the orientation of your device in the middle. If you're walking, or have it in your pocket, and it changes, it will announce that you have changed your orientation, and it will also change what fits on the screen, so it will possibly repeat half of what you just heard so you're right it does work, in the kendall app. It's just not quite as accessible. So you can turn on the lock orientation screen, which I constantly forget, so that it locks. Yeah. >>Taylor: Command. So, okay. >>Donna: What was that, Taylor? It was you were a little bit garbled. >>Taylor: Yeah, that was my next question was, Is there a voice over cost? Or turning the screen off. Awesome. >>Donna: There, there is a command for. Locking your orientation. And at the moment that is not coming to the top of my head, cause like I said, I forget to use it. Let's see lock orientation. Okay, well, that's pulling that up. Oh, it's on your quick screen. When when you swipe down from the top corner there's a lock orientation button. Now, whether or not this, whether or not the student, I know that there's a they use usually the gesture for that, and then just click over. >>Taylor: Okay. >>Donna: But I will see if there is another quick command for that I am sure there is. I'm just forgetting it. >>Taylor: Thank you. >>Donna: But if all else fails the long way will get us there. Great questions. Alright! So we did some rotor training this weekend on how to access the rotor and teaching your students how to use the rotor. Remember, you have to have voice over turned on before the rotor will appear, and then, once you've turned your rotor and you get to the settings you choose. Say you are going to volume. It says volume level, and you flick up or down to change the volume level. You can do the same thing for speed. You turn it to speed the rotor will disappear, flick up or down to change the speed. It's pretty a quick succession of commands that they have to learn. So it takes practice. We talked about how to teach your student who how to make that turn, cause not all of them have had knobs to turn on the things like I know growing up. I'm gonna age myself here as absolutely another generation. We had knobs on our TV growing up and knobs on our radios in our cars. You can also use the water bottle top to learn to make that turning gesture. So lots of different things you can do to teach that rotor customizing, that rotor for your students is in the accessibility menu under under voice over and rotor menu, and that it will be. Highly efficient for your student on the things that they change often. So volume, speech, whether they're having characters, words, etc., being read at first, I'll want to put everything on the rotor, but that gets a little tedious. So have them, choose! So a lot of what we I wanna talk about today is finding support. And really leaning toward the power user. So making the things efficient for your students. So what we have first, our links to the Youtube support channel, they have a lot of videos on here that if your student hasn't already discussed them, and they're an id an Ios user point them toward this because they're approved videos that are up kept by upcut by apple support, and they will, by leaps and bounds be ahead of you on how to access everything. So this is a great resource to share with your students. If they want to learn on their own. Apple is this used to be flying blinds? If you are, have been around for a little bit, then you might remember the flying blinds, forums, and they have some really neat getting started guides for your student as well as directories, and other items. I usually don't let my younger kiddos loose on this, because it is of open forum, and so if they got into some of these chats like their app calendar, somebody's giving their opinion. So this is more for our older students. This, learn. Learn verse over gestures. Site is rather nice for a quick lookup of general navigation. So anything you need to look something up using that control find key usually works rather well. So if I want to select the next item for say, and I can jump right down to it. And know what know what I need to teach, to do that. And it keeps you up to date. If you're students using an older device. Tidbitsz is a really nice newsletter that you can subscribe to, and any new updating technology as well as Ios is covered. That will allow you to not only get Ios updates that are fresh and and updated into the field, but they update a Ph freedom scientific. All of these things down here are chatted about on the top tech team bits. Any questions on finding support or D, is there anyone that needs support on some specific items that we haven't covered? Kind of a resource of where to get yet. Alright navigation. These are what the. Iphone, ipad support videos. So I didn't want to play the whole thing. I just want to give you a little taste of what it sounds like, and how it's delivered. You can judge by the video with, or not. You just play the video for your kiddo, or if you pull the information from it for yourself, and you are absolutely welcome. Linda, Linda said, Thank you for the resources. Voiceover reads everything on your screen aloud, so you can use voiceover reads everything on your screen aloud, so you can use your iphone or ipad without seeing the screen. Oops! If you are blind, or have low vision. This feature helps you navigate your device, here's how to get started. You can ask Siri to turn voice over on or off instantly. Okay. So that's just an idea of what their videos sound like. They are very much like a commercial, and they usually give you alternatives, such as using Siri to turn voice over on and off, or using a triple click, accessibility shortcut to do that. Oops! There we go! Alright! So these are my favorite resources, even though, and I put a note at the bottom to remind you if you're using a print book and you opt for a print book, because you like to have something in your hand which I completely agree I ran around all weekend with my Ios Voiceover reads everything. book when we were doing tech weekend this weekend. Be warned that the publishing process takes time, and ios an apple up is updated quite frequently, as we all know, that use iphones. We get those updates quite often. And so your print book may be completely out of date by the time you get it. When it comes to screenshots, and what's under some menus, and how things work. But you can still find there's ways of still finding them. What I love about these books is they are in a lot of them. Are written in a language that we can easily use to write lessons for our students, even just reading out of some of them with our students. So I love these by Larry Lewis. There's some of my favorites, and then this survival guide for screen readers, which is really well kept up to date. I I print this, laminated it, kept it in my bag. When I was a Tvi, because I had students who were using jaws voice over and in Vda. So this has your basic does not have all of your web commands, but it has your basic commands. When the kiddos are reading and navigating the Internet, which are 2 of their reading, writing, and navigating the Internet or their 2 2 to 3 biggest activities. So this allows you in a one-page document to have that at your fingertips, and you don't have to pull it up on the computer. So all of these are linked. If you don't have them. This is one of my favorites, but the screenshots are out of date. This is the fifth edition of the full practice. So this is not just Tvi. Anybody that's looking to get their at certification. This covers everything so positioning distance, all of the things that you would need, for it's quite a thick edition. And it's used as a resource for all of the National at certifications so if you're interested in that, this is a book to go to, it is just a wealth of resource. And so, yeah, that's that book. If you have the fourth instead of the fifth that looks like this one, it has a majority of the same resources, and you can pick it up quite a bit cheaper. Alright. So we talked about apple updating things. Really, that is the hardest thing about keeping up with instruction. Cause the minute you have something down they're gonna update something, and it breaks. So settings can change. Manyus can change. Usually they keep voice over, up and running because it would raise outrage everywhere. If voice voice ever stopped working. But it could be that other accessibility features stopped working. So, if something doesn't work, this is a great site to go to. It is through their accessibility department you can look at each of the individual items that they have available on their accessibility menu. And then what's really nice? Is, if something's not working. Let's say our voice over. And Braille is not working. We can go to more information. And down here. They give us the updates without having to read that long patch note that comes out with. The Ios update. We can go directly to this site and see what was upated on the last update. If anything. And then we can take that information to support. They also have deeper topics based on that specific accessibility. So here they have Braille commands. Braille displays the support. What supported browsse displays there are, and common commands for Mac, so each one is, gonna look a little bit different if we go down here to Magnifyier and go there again. We have our deeper dive, and you see there's quite a bit more that was added with the update. Thank goodness, they were all added, and no functionality was taken away. Does anybody have any questions so far? Okay, I'm not seeing anything in the chat. So now we have all these great resources. What are some of our challenges for our students? First is accessing the wireless network. Make friends with your it. Department. Thank you, Cynthia, because if your student is using a device that is not school. This applies to Ios, and with those that are using brown touches, make friends with those it folks. If your student doesn't have their device on as a trusted device, they are not able to get onto the student network, you'll run into issues of them, not being able to access their student materials, such as email student drives. All those things that are blocked from the guest site. So definitely make friends with those it. Folks buy them coffee, chocolate, whatever they need. The other part is accessing wireless networks. Sometimes you have, you get popups or notifications when you're logging in. Those can be sometimes difficult to navigate with voice over or with the brown touch. I know we're kind of touching over into Android there, for those of us that are doing brownout touch. So having help. Having the exterior screen using being able to shut off Kisoft, which is your to outside thumb keys on the brown note touch, and turning off voice over with a quick access for your Ios folks. Will allow your it people to work directly on the device, and they won't have to deal with navigating voice over or okay, so I gotta remind myself, this is Ios. Not. So let's let me get back on target for you pairing Bluetooth devices. Keyboards with pairing buttons sometimes work sometimes don't. I'll depends. Bluetooth, brail displays can be slow to respond pairing codes may disappear too fast for them to get the code off the braille or off the notification shade so they may need assistance pairing those devices to begin with once they're paired. You should be good to go. But pairing them initially can be an issue. Staying updated. Each revision of Ios, again, can give us a problem. Alright, so don't be surprised if, after that initial lesson, your student goes onto the Internet finds half of these resources and leaves you in the dust. It happens, embrace it, say, hey! Show me how to do that, and remember they they learn, and that cement faster when they can teach somebody else. They're gonna move faster with the gestures they're going to speed up the voice. Make sure. You know how to turn it down when you're together, or insist that they turn it down when you're together. The other thing is the curtain. So there's such a thing. If you haven't explored it yet, called the screen curtain. This is where the screen goes. Black, but yet voice over is still playing in their ear. If they have a Bluetooth earphone setup. So we can see nothing. They say they're working, and they're really on Facebook or Youtube or Tiktok. So those curtain controls I've linked here. So it's how to use those controls, how to turn them on and off. We have some kids that are just Trixie. I love it. It means they're learning how to use their technology and to do what they want to do. And that I love to see it may not be my plan, but that's okay. We've learned how to use the device. Alright, ios with braille devices. So these are the braille devices that are acceptable for Ios. American Printing house. Your mantis and your chameleon, I think, refresher. Braille has been discontinued, but I'm not honor 100% sure on that one. I don't see many of the bomb or the Europa brails around the Freedom Scientific. See a lot of these around. The Braille sense. There's still a few of those. I don't see many of the handy texts or the braille pens. A lot of the kiddos with the with the braille pens have moved on to other devices. Brail sense, brail edge and smart beetle, and then the human where these others I don't see very often. But they're they're there. So what's really nice is when you're on this site. Sorry, and you find the display you're using. You can then click your display, and it will take you right to all of the commands for that display on voice over. So we've got the link already for the initial learning voice over commands. These here for learning gestures. And now these are how we use our braille display, and we've got all of our actions here on how to use our braille display. The chameleon, the mantis, and the brown note touch. Unfortunately, we don't have those commands. Listed on their site yet. So if you're using one of those 3. Let me know. We'll see what resources we can hunt down together. If you're unsure about the connection to your braille display. Or how to connect your braille display. And here's a nice little link. That apple walks you through connecting your braille display to your Ios device. It talks you through what settings and what they mean. And then how to set up your close captioning. So it really does walk you through each and every step. Alright before we go to on screen braille, which I think is pretty cool. Are there any questions so far on the resources that we've checked out? Okay, we are going to look at the Ios on screen. Brail, if you want to just read an article about it, they've got an article from Perkins with some listing of prerequisite skills, instructions for enabling it and using using it. And then the conclusion for them. But this is a very short video. So I want you to see how cool this is. Hey? Who's used the iphone knows about the rotor, which is like a knob. So I'm gonna just try a knob. Okay? Character. And I like to my fingers just work better. Turning to the left. So I'm going to go to Brown Mode Brano screen input button to the left table. 10 to 2 finger. Stop him from talking, so run off the bat. Any. If you don't have this enabled, it is by default selected. But you go into your accessibilities. You go into your rotor and make sure. Braille. Input mode is on. So the finger swites do a few different things. So let's go over that actually, let me braille, and then I'll go over it. So okay, we like that. Okay, now, if I want to do a space, I'm gonna just flick my finger from left to right. And you get a space 80. Yeah. ABC, of course it's misspelled. Let's actually type a word. Hey? Hi! Now, if you want contracted mode, you're going to do 3 finger swipe very quickly contracted. Okay. And it's just left or right. And now we're in contracted mode. So let's go ahead. And just do some progressions.it. Th, let's see. Whoa i s is a a G Rt. Grade. Does d period day into the left table. Okay, so that's how to turn it on. That's the first way to do on Screen Brill. I kinda like the second one, though my phone is a little big. The phones are getting bigger, and so doing it this way can be a little awkward, but I could see how some of our kids would like to do it this way as well. And it's that if you turn it to landscape, right? Okay. Here we go. So you've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Okay, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. So you have 1, 2, 3 on the left, 4, 5, 6 on the right. And you can actually place this on your stomach. So you can actually just take this really, really quickly. Let me see if I can. Demonstrate this. Let me turn my camera, and it makes just a phenomenal, really, really quick way to Braille. So I'm placing this. So let me go ahead. Just place it on my stomach. So then you can actually position your thumbs very, very quickly on here. And actually braille, A, A, B, C, d, e, f, g, H. So that's a just I thought it was very cool that there are 2 ways that our kiddos could do a quick note in braille if they wanted to be private and didn't want to necessarily use a speech to text Entry. They could quickly switch it to Braille, put in a quick note. Say, a telephone number or a text message without losing that privacy or complexity. It is use. The iphone knows about the rotor, which is like a knobs. Oops. Alright. So here's the cool stuff that I told you I had coming up. A Ph. Has partnered and is now released. The information that we are going to have our first tacto graphics and Braille display it's called the Monarch. I'm so excited about this. It is a 38 wide. 10 long display that will, because of the placements of the PIN, and I won't get into all of that stuff. Basically the spacing is a little different. The kids will notice it a little bit at the beginning, but they adjust to it very, very quickly. In the ones that have trials. This device you can with the new braille platform, which we'll talk about in just a minute. Send graphics and. And text to the the device. And it's through the new Ebrf files. But they you're right, Beth. They are looking for beta testers, and they don't have the e braille ready quite yet. But they are working on it so excited because what that opens up is that we, as Tbis can, would be able to then produce Ebrf files and send them to our students. And just how cool is that? So let's take a moment and meet the monarch. Unfortunately, they don't have a huge demo library yet. They just had this little first look. But it's very short. So let's take a look. As Helen Keller wrote, one can never consent to creep when one feels an impulse to soar the braille metamorphosis has begun. Introducing the monarch, a dynamic tactile device that gives readers access to Braille and tactile graphics on the same screen, revolutionizing the way that we access information. The monarch about the size of a gaming laptop, with a Perkins style, keyboard and bright orange navigation buttons has a display of 32 cells by 10 lines, bringing text and images to life follow along as the monarch soars to new heights. I'm so excited that there that a Ph is pairing, and with the companies to get that produced and out to our kids because it it's a game changer, I think, for them. Now the Bbrf files. Here's a little description on the Ebf. Brf files if you're interested in checking them out. As Helen Keller wrote, one can. Oops! Oh, I'm so jealous! Beth said. She got to touch one last week at any time I am so jealous because I've only ever seen them in virtual meetings, and I didn't get to get to go up to see them so come on can you tell us what you thought when you got touch one. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:50:47 I loved it. It was very. It's it's more complicated to use because they don't have the ebrf or E braille files ready yet. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:50:59 But yeah, it's pretty cool. They only have one height on the dots, but you will be able to pinch out and be able to see more detail and then pinch in to make it so you can see the overall picture and just pretty exciting. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:51:20 I think I would. I would love to Demo, but I don't have any students that I work with right now. Oh, I'm so jealous! I don't I don't have anybody to work with right now. I don't know if they're going to send one to us to test. I hope they do so that I can sneak over and look over a lot of shoulders. So do you happen to have the link that they're looking for testers? Or is it just go to a Ph. Since I was there last week? [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:51:45 I could look. I do have the link somewhere in my email. I don't know. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:51:49 But. Oh, awesome! If you do happen to find that and share it out. If not, share it with me, I can send it out if you don't find it before the end of the session, we can share it out by email for participants. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:51:51 I'll find that and hear it. Yeah. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:51:59 Sure! [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:52:02 The Holy Grail! Oh, I'm so excited! They've been working on full page displays. It's always been like just on the horizon, and we thought we had it with the orbits tablet so close. But I think that ebrf getting that in place is really what made it all happen before we get to resources here, I have one other thing to show like I said. Pdfs have been our bane of existence, and even though the Ios has the take the picture, Ocr, there's an app that a TV. I told me about this week, so I can't take credit for this, because she told me about it, she said, it has saved her all year long. She's able to screen capture. So how many of you have use snippets? That is the snipping tool. Let me pull it up here. That looks like this on your oops. Let me see if you can even see that that looks like this screen when you type in snipping on your computer where it allows you to take a picture. This app does the same feature, however, it has. Ocr. Built in. So if you have a Pdf. That say is not necessarily accessible because it was a scanned image, you are able to use this to capture the text and then save it in an accessible document, so it is a little bit cost a little bit. Of a cost. I think it's about $69, but that is a perpetual license that means you don't have to pay for that ever again. It is yours, so I have it on. A Tvi telling me about it, and one of our Braille production people, those of you that are in the North Texas garland area visual Aid volunteers who don't a lot of brailing for the State. They use this app as well. So that is something that can help you get around those Pdfs that come in as images. Now on our resources, as we're wrapping everything up here, we only have a couple more minutes. We have our apple device accessibility. So getting started, here's your getting started. Guide for voiceover specifically, and it has a full table of contents. So don't be thrown when you get to hear and go. Oh, there's nothing more. Come up here to your table of contents and open it up. What you have is a full 10 chapters, all in one location. So, if you lose my Powerpoint, that has the links on it, you can come to this guide and get most of what we talked about. Straight from apple. And I know several of you commented about checklist. And I'll get to those new messages in just 1 s. We have a slew of checklists here of 4, but they're really nice. I like them, Taylor. Voice, voice, dream reader, and Clara Pdf. Pro can also scan Pdfs text, too. Oh, that's a new feature. They work great. This appears to be a scan. Would you like to perform it over awesome news, Taylor? Thank you so much for sharing and. I knew Alicia Wolf was our specialist. Goodness knows. Okay, so, she's Iowa. I don't know if she's still Texas. She was. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:56:26 She she is the regional specialist for Texas. Okay. Awesome. Yes. Because she spoke on one of our T. [Beth Pieters-Iowa] 15:56:29 I looked it up. Make sure she's new. She's very new. Times in December, November, December, so awesome the her. Her contact. Thank you very much, Beth, for putting that in the chat for us. Alright. So these checklists are very nice. This one's from Pat's deliteracy. It is nicely indexed. They have. Well, it's from Tsbi, but it's on past literacy. Yeah, so you can go to it and print it off if you'd like. If you need to just jump to an objective, it can jump you down to the objective and tell you how to do those. I'm a little bit more on the I need a paper side when I'm checking things off. Here's a nice checklist with voice over just your skills all broken down. Bye, skill, you're Bluetooth connection with voice over for a keyboard all of those are nicely broken down so that you can track your performance indicators, and the last one is your braille display checklist. So you can absolutely check on those splinter skills. And they nicely design them to where your command is right. There! So you don't have to go digging for them. So all of those checklists are available for you in the handout, which is already on my website. Which is right here. So if you didn't get that at the top oops, hold on! Here's another link. Alright! We are coming to the last 2 min. So mark your calendar next week. Document accessibility for Microsoft suite. Lots of resources coming at you from that one. May fourth is going to be a big one at assessment for TV eyes. So that's going to be how to integrate your at assessments into your lma for your kiddos when you do their assessment, and then how to track those throughout the 3 year cycle may eleventh is going to be document accessibility again. We're going to be talking about math specifically, and I know I am so excited. Another reason about the monarch is because math can go in there when we're producing math, we can produce them in those Ev F files. And it's very nice. So Mark may eleventh on your calendar for those math questions. May eighteenth is going to be technology for students with multiple impairments. And that will be our last tea time of this school year. We will pick back up in late August, early September. So we've got 4 more sessions left. I'll be available for questions. After we end this session. If you need to stay and ask anything, or would like to see something on on a new tea time.