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LetŐs Talk TDBs!
5-11-2026

>>Kaycee: I'm Kaycee Bennett. I am the statewide TDB mentor coordinator. If you don't know, TDB stands for teachers of students who are Deafblind. I know some of you are out of state and you are more than welcome to be here and be part of our discussion today. But I do want to share that a lot of the things I'll be sharing today are Texas-specific, kind of where the state of things TDB-wise here in Texas. Just a heads up, if you want to spend your time elsewhere, I will not be offended but I just wanted to let you know. You're welcome to stay but it is a little bit Texas-specific today. Before we get into all the legal updates and all kinds of fun stuff TDB-wise, I wanted to share a little bit about what we do on the Texas Deafblind Project. And just kind of a little bit of an overview on the Texas Deafblind Project. I am part of that team, as the statewide TDB mentor coordinator. We have a family engagement coordinator. We have an early childhood consultant. We have a transition consultant and we have three school-aged consultants. And so variety of folks to lean on there. And we offer lots of different services. We offer something called student consultation, which can be virtual or it can be in person, where we gather information about your student. Sometimes we travel out there. We observe. We visit with the family and we have a rereflections meeting where we share some observations and some recommendations and we write a formal report that we share with the team. So that is an option. We offer training on a variety of topics. And can do customized topics as well. We're also available to just share some resources or answer some general questions. We can do that through e-mail, Zoom, through phone call, whatever works for you guys. Those are things we're able to support with. And then we offer professional development opportunities, including Coffee Hour, which you're at today. We have a Tactile Language Study Series that we're offering, which meets monthly. We're going to continue that into next year, so we will have Tactile Language Study Series again. This summer, an intense two-day training in July on essential tools of the trade for teachers who are Deafblind. It's going to be in-person in Austin, so we're looking forward to that. You do have to have one of the books to bring with you to come. But we would love to have you. We have a self-paced online intervener team training models that anyone can do. If you guys hire on intervener mid-year and you need training, you can do that at any point and it's free on our website. We also have a community of practice, that's what CoP stands for, for students with complex access and communication needs. We'll have those professional development opportunities. On the screen to the right is a QR code that says "request a service" above it. It's a Google Form that you can ask general questions in, ask if there's a resource you might need, request training, consultation. Any of those things can be done on that one Google Form. Just wanted to make sure you guys are aware of that. Some people might worry about the cost of things like training or student consultation, but just know even if districts or teams cannot help cover our travel, we'll still come. Please reach out. Don't let cost be a prohibitive factor for you reaching out. We would love to connect with you. Also wanted to share the exciting news that on our Texas Deafblind Child Count for this year, 2026 from January snapshot, we have 932 Deafblind kiddos. This is an increase of 34 from last year, which is awesome. And it's an increase of 55 more of those kids receiving services from their Regional Day School Program for the Deaf. That was a big win we were very excited about. Wanted to share with you all. Hot off the presses. Now we're going to talk about TDBs. Teachers of students who are Deafblind. So a specific role that is different from a TVI or a TDHH because we know our students who are Deafblind have unique needs. It's not the same. So, this is a new certification here in Texas. And we're going to talk more about the code and things that are in place for that. Excuse me. Something is stuck in my throat. And then proposed structure for Texas. We're proposing that every RDSPD or Regional Day School Program for the Deaf have at least one TDB on staff so that through shared service arrangements, even tiny districts who may only have one student who is Deafblind every now and again, can still have access to qualified personnel. And so that's something that we're, you know, working toward and would like to see out there. We do have a new model how that could work financially. So that's something to share with administrators. The TDB would serve all students who are Deafblind. So they would be able to provide support in their LEAs, or SSAs, then also in their member districts. That's something that we are hoping to see and allowing everyone to have access to qualified personnel, not just those kids who live in larger areas who have a bigger population of Deafblind kiddos. And then state certification. So I'm here today to answer any questions that I can about this. I know it's been kind of confusing. So we're going to talk through it today. Please, please ask the questions in the chat. I'll answer them the best that I can. So to this date, there is not any approved educator preparation program, EPP, which is a fancy way to say university program. There's not one that has been approved yet to hold TDB certification. So what that means is there's a test. It's out there. It's on the Texas website to register and take. Except that nobody can register and take it because the university has to say this person is ready to take that test. And there is no university that has been approved to put anyone forward to be able to take the test. So, there is a test. There is certification but no one in Texas is currently certified. So there is an EPP or university that is in progress with that but we don't have anybody approved right now. So we're just kind of waiting at this point. And so to stay updated on those changes, we will be making announcements as things change. So make sure that you're following us on social media, that you're part of our ListServs and getting our newsletters. And then also you can always look on the Texas Deafblind Project website on the becoming a TDB page. And I keep that updated with any and all changes. So you can definitely look there as well. And you're always welcome to reach out to me if you just want to check in or have specific questions. This is just kind of an overview of the timeline of what have gone on so far. Way back in July of 2020, our TDB state standards were approved. So Deafblind EC-12. Those are the name of it. Those standards were approved by the state board of educator certification at that time. Almost six years ago. It's crazy. And then right after those got approved, we started IM writing, which is a fancy way to say writing the questions for the test. Started item writing back in 2020 and that is a long process. So that went on all the way through -- we did a round of pilot testing of the completed exam. And that was in December of 2023. So that pilot exam went out for folks to take in the secure testing centers in December 2023. A year later in December 2024, the EPP application window opened, which means universities were then allowed to apply to hold this certification. So it's been open a little bit now, since December 2024. Like I said, there's not been any approved applications yet. We are anticipating that happening somewhat soon but we just don't exactly know yet. We're just kind of waiting. So that is why you cannot go take the test yet. We get questions about that often, feel free to reach out. We're waiting for the educator preparation program that trained you to become approved so they can put you forward for certification. We have lots of new code or law that has been put in place surrounding TDBs and the certification. So I'm going to go through these so that you're aware of the code that's out there. This is 231.710. Oh, also all of these are also on the becoming a TDB page of Texas Deafblind Project website. All in a row here. It can be very hard to find the code when they're in different places within TAC code, so I have them all pulled in a nice little row, so if you're looking for them, you can look there. This is 231.710. And this is about the assignment. So it's saying if, you know, you're going to have the role in a district, the assignment, teachers of students who are Deafblind, TDB, you must hold the certificate. There's not one yet but if a district is going to post a position for students who are Deafblind, that person must hold this certification. In order to hold this certification, TDB certification, you have to also hold either a VI or a DHH certification or both. But you have to have at least one or the other. The 3 through 7 on that list are the names of the previous versions. If you're wondering, some of the language is kind of icky, it's because those are the old names for that. Those are on there for a reason, so if you got certified quite a while ago and your certification says deficient vision, for example, it wouldn't exclude you from being eligible for this. Those are listed on there but the main point is you hold TVI and/or DHH certification and the Deafblind EC-12 certificate in order to serve as a TDB. Please, if anybody has any questions as we go, throw them in the chat. I'm happy to take them at any time. Okay. So then the next one is 230.105. This is a bunch of words on here but what it's saying is it is not eligible for certified exam. There's a list here. TVI is already one of them. You can't just decide I'm going to take the TVI test next week. That's not how it works. A university has to put you forward for certification. We were added to that list. So Deafblind, you cannot just decide I'm going to go take the Deafblind test and be a TDB. There are requirements and we're going to go through those requirements through the other code. But this one says it is not eligible for cert by exam. This next one, 228.51 is the coursework and training requirements. So there are some of those requirements. The university or EPP must provide a minimum of 300 clock hours of coursework and/or training related to the educator standards for the Deafblind supplemental early childhood grade 12 certificate. So they have to have 300 clock hours to be approved by the university. And there's an internship. This is 228.77. They call it clinical experience. And there is at least 350 clock hours of supervised educator assignment in a public school accredited by TEA. Clinical experience is successful when the field supervisor recommends to the university that the candidate should be recommended for certification. Aligning with other internships or clinicals that you may have done in the past, especially if you're a VI, looks very, very similar. 350 clock hours. It's not specific as to how that's broken out, like how many direct and how many observation, all of that. Those are going to be university decisions. So it's not specific in code how they're divvied up, it's just the number, 350 clock hours. Yeah. There's a great question in the chat. Are you able to get the clock hours if you're teaching at the same time? Yes, absolutely. It will be kind of like student teaching. So you're teaching in your regular teaching assignment. If you're able to clock those hours that you are working with students who are Deafblind. And for most people, that will be the way to get these hours is working with these students. Because that's a lot of hours to get with a really low-incidence population. So great question. 228.35 is substitution of applicable experience and training. This is basically what people think of as a grandfather clause. This one is saying candidates who previously completed a graduate program can receive test approval. The EPP can, they may require additional coursework. It's up to the university. So this is the one I get asked about the most often. I'm sure there are several of you in here who have completed the graduate certificate, which did not contain an internship component. If you went on to get a master's, then you did have an internship. But if you just got the graduate certificate, it did not have an internship component. And we just read there was an internship requirement. 350 clock hours. So this 228.35 is saying if you previously completed, previous to the university being approved, if you previously completed that program, graduate program, graduate certificate, you can receive test approval from the EPP without taking additional internship hours. But it's up to the EPP. So the university will make some guidance over who can receive test approval and who cannot. But this allows them the flexibility to put forward candidates who have finished a graduate certificate without having them go back for an internship. Any questions on that? That's a biggie. If you think of anything, put it in the chat. The next one is 228.115. This is the one where I come in. There's kind of two parts here. The EPP or the university assigns a cooperating teacher and provides the training to the cooperating teachers. They go out, grade them, and report back to the university whether or not that candidate is ready. The second part is that they're going to collaborate with Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired to assign a mentor for the candidate. And then we, TSBVI, are responsible for providing training for all of those mentors. So, that's me. I'm the new statewide TDB mentor coordinator and so I work with the universities, get the names of candidates as they go into their internship semester, assign them a mentor, and then provide training to them and their mentor as they go through. We're going to do the two-year cycle. So it will be the full year of internship and then the full year after. In code. Okay. The last one here is actually in Chapter 89.10503CC. A student with suspected or documented DeafBlindness, the ARD committee must include a teacher who is certified in the agendas of students with a visual impairment and a teacher who is certified in the education of students who are deaf or hard of hearing. The teacher or TDHH needs to be part of the ARD meeting. But this is really, really important because I want to bring up that there is proposed change to this particular sentence in code that is happening right now. And today is the very last day to submit your public comment on it. So, Collin's going to drop in the chat a link -- this link right here. If you're in Texas, please click this and open it. We've got to get it done today. Have your opinions heard. The proposed code is saying if you have a TDB at the ARD, you don't need to have the TVI and TDHH. That could be obviously very detrimental to a student who is Deafblind if you have a -- like myself, for example. I'm a Deaf Ed teacher is my background. So if you have me, a DHH who is a TDB at your ARD meeting, you wouldn't have to have a TVI there. What if that kid needed Braille? What if that kid, you know, had some visual concerns that were beyond my scope of understanding. You know, a couple of courses in vision is not the same thing as the experience a TVI brings and vice versa. That student needs language acquisition support, needs manual communication, like ASL. We need to make sure that these two professionals are at the table, is the opinion of our project. If you agree or you want to share a differing opinion, you need to get that comment in today. Today is the very last day and you can click that link. Our example, sharing that, is linked in that posting and so you're welcome to copy and paste from that, to write your own, to do a combo of both, whatever works for you. Please get your voices heard on that today so we can make sure that TEA can review what our state experts have to say on this proposed change. If we have completed the graduate program and not the whole master's program before the program is approved, then we don't have to completely all the additional coursework/internship? You don't -- they don't have to make you. So it's basically up to the university. But the university can put you forward, Jeannie, for certification, once they're approved, without you having to go back and take anything. But they can make you go back and take things. I don't anticipate that they will because they, like us, want qualified personnel, certified people out there, to get out there. We don't have any certified people in Texas right now. We're going to want to get a good bunch of people out there and certified. But I don't have a crystal ball. I don't work for the university. I can't tell you exactly what that will look like. But you don't have to to meet code requirements. I hope that's clear. Any questions on the public comment piece? Okay. Thanks, Jeannie. It's not hard to fill out. It's like a quick form and you can copy and paste pieces if you need to, tweak them, change them, write something completely different. It's totally up to you but please, please, please get your voices heard today. Do that while I'm talking, if you want. If you think of questions, let me know. We're going to talk about the TDB mentor program a little bit. So as I have said a million times today, there's no approved EPP in place right now. So being in the role of TDB mentor coordinator decided to do a spring pilot, since we didn't have candidates to pull from the university. We took volunteers and ended up with 14 TDBs that came through my spring pilot. And it was super fun. We had two collaboration or training sessions. Everyone attended together, so people -- being a new field, it is not so much like mentor and mentee dynamic, but we're all learning together and supporting each other. So they came in as learning partners. And we all attended the training together. It wasn't just the seven that were coded mentees, it was all 14. So we attended two trainings together. After each of those trainings, the learning partners observed each other and provided feedback, had feedback sessions. They did that twice for the semester. And were able to share what they learned from those observations. This is what we're currently planning for -- it's to look like but on a larger scale. We're hoping for fall 2026, but we'll see. If there's an approved EPP in place, we'll start then. And we'll start our first two-year cycle with candidates coming from that EPP. So as they enter, like I said before, their first semester of internship, then they will -- I'll get their names from the university and they will be assigned and we'll start that two-year cycle. We're planning to use an expanded version of this model that we just used for the spring pilot. So using like the learning partners model. Having in-person sessions that we do all together. And then having them observe putting those practices in to place. But training for those in-person collaboration sessions were provided by Texas Deafblind Project staff and covered a variety of topics. Family engagement, language access and acquisition. Being a competent communication partner. Behavior. Those are some of the topics that we covered in the spring pilot. And then they got to go and observe those things being put into place and provide meaningful feedback. And they all really did -- I enjoyed reading the feedback that they gave each other. As the EPPs apply and gain approval, then I'll be working with those programs to make sure that there's a streamlined process and that we have qualified personnel getting out into our field here in Texas. We also have exciting news. The grant funding for the TDB coursework is back up and live. The -- it's coursework through Texas Tech University. It's back up for the summer and fall semester and you can find that on the SPED Support Website. It should be on your handout. Let me know if it's not. And you can apply. Make sure, if you're planning to apply for the summer semester, that you do that really, really soon. I think it's the 15th of this month is the cutoff, I want to say. So if you're interested in starting in the summer, make sure you jump on that really quickly. For the fall, you have a little bit more time. But that is back open so you can get your coursework fully funded through that TEA grant. We're excited that it's back up and hope that that leads to more folks coming through the program and more qualified personnel out in Texas. Okay. And then some tools. Some TDB-specific tools that I wanted to share with you guys. Oh, Tyler, great question. Tyler asked: Who do we contact for funding the classes? You'll go to the link on the SPED support website -- actually I can -- no, maybe not. I will drop that link in the chat in just a minute for you. You can go to the SPED support website. If you Google "Deafblind coursework" -- Brenna is on it. It's in the chat. If you go to that website, there's specific instructions. You apply to Texas Tech first. Once you have done that, you apply on this web page that Brenna just dropped in the chat for you. And follow those steps that are on the SPED support website there. And then we're super excited to share the sensory team service time matrix. It actually got sent today to our marketing person to get ready for the website. So it should be up in the coming days. It is done and ready to go. And our hope is that it really drives collaboration and helps get services that meet the needs of our students who are Deafblind. It is for the TVI and the TDHH to do together. Really got creative from the thought that the TVI and the TDHH, one of them serving as the TDB also. So it's the TDB and their counterpart can sit down and fill this out together and make sure that all these different Deafblind-specific areas are being covered and really have those discussions about who's going to do what to make sure that the students are getting everything that they need. So that service time matrix is about to be live. We're really excited to share that with you and get your feedback. When you use that, if you have any thoughts for us, please share that. Sarah Mossberger and myself created that and we would welcome your feedback. Please let us know as you start to use that. Watch for it. Again, if you aren't getting the Texas Deafblind Project newsletter, make sure that you sign up for that so that you get those announcements when these things are published. But that is coming out really soon. Excited to share that. And then the essential tools of the trade for teachers of students who are Deafblind is a tool to help TDBs and really the whole sensory team provide evaluation that really looks at Deafblind-specific needs and support. So looking at Functional Vision Evaluations, Learning Media Assessments, communication evaluations as well as Expanded Core Curriculum evaluations. The two-day in-person training that's happening at the end of July is going to be focused on that functional tactile bodily evaluation, that's the new part for everybody, obviously. And that's going to be July 29 and 30 in Austin. And that QR code should take you to the registration for that. It is a limited number of spots because of how intensive the analysis and things will be in that. So make sure if you're interested that you get registered soon. We would love to have you for that two-day training. Britney asked when they officially recognized the TDB certification. Will there be a stipend involved with holding this unique certification? That's a really good question. It is up to our local agencies what stipends are involved, in general. So like some districts have special ed stipends and some don't and they are different amounts. This will be the same. It would be really great for individual school boards, for the LEAs to put in these stipends but it's not something that will be statewide because it's part of what's under local control. Each LEA will make their own determinations regarding stipends. But it's certainly something that we can advocate for. And I think would be really great as we try to get more qualified personnel out there. That's a great way to motivate people to get through the coursework and get that certification. Okay. Then I wanted to point out on the Texas Deafblind Project website, which is Txdeafblindproject.org. You can go for a whole bunch of different resources. If you go to the one that says "resources" and then underneath that, "topical resources." If you click that one, there are so many resources on here. And the sections are alphabetized. We've got learning stuff. Assessment tools. Here are a whole bunch of Deafblind-specific or great to use with Deafblind kids assessment tools that are here. Deafblind general information. Early childhood. That's been curated by our early childhood consultant. Educational considerations. These are a collection of fact sheets and they are available in English, Spanish, and screen reader accessible in English and Spanish. We have those available on a few different topics. Competent communication partners, hand-under-hand, and Texas eligibility. Family engagement section, curated by our family engagement coordinator. A lot of these are Texas-specific but not all of them. So if you're outside of Texas, you can take a look but know there are several Texas-specific. IEP development tools. We've got our quality indicators for students who are Deafblind, for example, are in here. Individual and family perspectives. Different stories shared by Deafblind individuals and their family members. Orientation and mobility. Our transition specialist is deaf herself and she is also a COMS certified orientation and mobility specialist and she made this great video of ASL signs for orientation and mobility terms. If you are also an O&M or if you are an O&M, this is a great place to look for that vocabulary, especially if you're working with manual communicators. For this section on proficient communications, those kiddos on or near grade level and we have lots of resources here in designing IEPs for them and supporting them in general. You can check that out, if you're working with that population. And then there's a big section on qualified personnel. And this does include if you're curious about our TDB standards here in Texas. That is on here. It's the third from the bottom. That brand-new article that I just mentioned about the TDB-proposed model in Texas is the fourth from the bottom. So you can access that there. We also just added this last week, an intervener job description example. If your district is going to be posting an intervener position, this is a great place to look for an example of what that position could look like. There's a section on sexuality education. There's a section on tactile learning and tactile language. Many of these links take you to different pages on the Nordic Welfare Center website. They have amazing information on tactile language and tactile learning, so you can check that out, including the book if you can see it, you can support it. A book on tactile language, which is my favorite book. And it's free. You can just download it from there. If you haven't read that, I highly suggest taking a look at it. TDB certification Texas. Again, we've got that proposed model in Texas article that just published this week on state standards. There's also a preparation manual. So when you get ready to sit for the exam, TEA published a preparation manual. And so you can click this and it will take you there and you can use that for studying. Transition planning in Texas. This one was curated by our transition consultant. Again, lots of Texas-specific things but if you're outside of Texas, you can definitely take a look and see if there's things that might be applicable for your state adds well. And then a section on general vision loss considerations. I'm going to scroll back to the top and show you just one more page on the website. And that's becoming a TDB page that I mentioned a few times. Come under TDBs, becoming a TDB. When you click this page, these paragraphs in the beginning are where I am keeping updated the latest in the state. And then all of the code is here. This is the current code related to our certification. These are all the slides, basically, that I just went over with you guys, in one place. If you're looking for them at a later date, you can find that there. And then the information on the Deafblind grant that we just talked about is also here. And then for people who get certified in Utah, there's information here about that review of credentials. Utah is the only state with certification. So if you are certified in Utah, that is something you can explore. Are there any other questions about certification, about the state of things here in Texas? About the code? The grants? Mentorship? Yes. This session that we're in right now is being recorded and it will be posted in our Coffee Hour archives. You can find those on the TSBVI website. You go to statewide resources and then professional development to the link that says Coffee Hour on that page. This will be up in a day or two. You'll be able to revisit it. And then: Do I find us a mentor? I do. I have a database of mentors, many of which just went through the spring pilot. And I will look at things like where you're located. And I'll also look at things like whether you have a vision background or a DHH background. And I will find you a mentor. And then you and your mentor will come to our in-person events together and you will observe each other and provide each other with feedback and get to learn from each other along the way. How to make sure you're signed up for the Texas Deafblind Project newsletter so you can make sure you get all the updates. That is a great question. We have a link to get on that list. I will find it in a moment and share it with you in the chat. Or if somebody else from the project has that, please throw it in the chat. Of course Brenna's got it. It's the "stay updated" link at the bottom. Make sure you fill that out. If we've finished the coursework, are we able to act as a TDB even though we can't sit for the test? Yeah. I mean, yeah. We're going to have to for right now. Many of us have been TDBs for years and years and years. Even though there wasn't certification. And so, yeah. That's just kind of continuing until we have the ability to go and sit for the test and have an approved EPP in place. So, yeah. We've been owning the title for a really long time. You know, our code is specific that if it's your title in the system, in your school district, then you need to be certified. But if you're the one bringing the expertise to the table, that's my personal opinion. Absolutely. If you're the one bringing the expertise to the table, then claim that. And then hopefully we'll be able to officially become certified soon. Yes. Maria asked where she can find a review or a study for the test. That you can find on that topical resources page that Brenna put in the chat a few minutes ago. If you go down to the TDB certification in Texas section, that study preparation materials are there. And you can use that to study for the test. And Rebecca asked: For those of us that have a Deafblind graduate certificate, will our universities reach out when we can take the test or how will we know? They're probably not going to reach out. They might, I don't know. But my best guess is that you'll get that information from us, the Project. Once we know what their procedures are going to be, how they want us to apply to them, let them know we're wanting to take it. Once I get those procedures, I will write them out nice for everybody and then send them out. So that's what you want to make sure that you are on our newsletter, that you're getting our ListServ information, that you're following us on socials and that you check back on that "becoming a TDB" page because we're going to get the word out everywhere we can. We want to make sure that you're receiving our information. And, yeah. If there's ever any question, if you hear it's ready, what are you supposed to do, you can reach out to me and I will help guide everybody through that process once we know what that process is going to be. And Maria, Brenna dropped in the chat the preparation manual, so you can find that study guide or prep manual in the chat as well. Thank you, Brenna. Other questions? Oh, here's our "Get our newsletter." I forgot I put it in here. There's a QR code on the screen to sign up for the Texas Deafblind Project newsletter. Make sure you're getting that one too. It's kind of confusing because there's an Outreach newsletter and a Texas Deafblind Project newsletter. You want to get both so you get all the information. Our Texas Deafblind Project one is obviously Deafblind-specific. We have that coming out monthly. I'll leave that up for another second. Make sure you're signed up for ours. There's two e-mail addresses on the screen. The one on the left is txdeafblindroject@tsbvi.edu. That one goes to the whole team. If you have a general question and you're not sure which of us to send that question too, you can send it to the whole team. We discuss who is best to respond to that question and somebody will reach back out to you. If you have TDB-specific questions, that would be me, so you can reach out to me, bennettk@tsbvi.edu. I'm happy to help you through any of this. I know it's confusing and it's also changing a lot so feel free to reach out any time. I'm happy to answer any questions. We had another question came in. I know Maria shared she came in late so she missed a few things. She asked about the stipend as well. Those are going to be local decisions. So the school districts will be the ones to decide if they are going to offer a stipend for those that hold the certification or not. Stipends, unfortunately, are not -- I don't know if it's fortunate or unfortunate but stipends are not statewide decisions. It's a district by district decision, so that would be up to your individual school board. Other questions? We have a few minutes. Happy to take questions. I know this is confusing. If you haven't already, please spend this time right now submitting public comment for whatever your opinion is. We want to make sure everybody's voice is heard on this topic as TEA goes to review public comment. And we'll drop that link again. Brenna dropped it earlier, but just in case anybody missed it -- or Collin actually dropped it. Here's that link again with the information about the public comment. And this came out as part of our ListServ, which comes through Constant Contact. If you did not receive this in your inbox, you are not on the mailing list. Make sure you sign up for the mailing list. That you sign up for our newsletter. If you're on socials, follow us on socials. TSBVI and Texas Deafblind Project. Sometimes we share different information. The project will definitely have in addition certification related coming out on socials and our newsletter. The socials will be a quicker way to get that, since our newsletter only comes out once a month. Does anybody have any questions about submitting public comment? How to do it, any confusion on the form? I want to make sure everybody has that opportunity because today is the last day.