TRANSCRIPT-Teaching JAWS 

>>Donna: Hello, everyone! Let me get the coffee shop closed here. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far Getting set up here. We had a little bit of a scare about not getting anybody logged in, but everybody is set up and nicely alright. So today we are talking about jaws with littles. I'm so excited about this because I've gotten quite a few questions about where do we start with our littles on jaws? When do we start? How do we start? What what materials are out there for littles? So I've put together a little bit of a hodgepodge of where to start depending on where your kiddo is in functioning level, and how how skill or what skills they have What skills they have. In the meantime. So before we get started, our usual announcements, goals of tea time is to build a community of practice to support each other in instruction of technology in the spirit of that goal, we do want to encourage talking. So you can unmute yourself and have a nice chat with us. Ask questions if I don't have the answer. Somebody in the group may and I can guarantee yet. I don't have all the answers So ask a question, if no one in the group knows, we will research and find out. Okay, by registering for this session you give us permission to publish any contents of the recording that may include your image or audio from you, and that will be posted on my Google site and eventual and on the Tsbba Bbi Media site and eventually on our Main side, hopefully. So we're gonna open it to quote questions and discussions as I go through this, please interrupt me anytime, whether it be chat or I just realized I did not turn on my camera. Sorry. Whether it be in chat or out loud. Sorry, folks, I got somebody who's trying to get into the room Okay, we're good. So please interrupt me at any point. Ask questions. I definitely want to hear from you. So reminder we as TV eyes are not in most cases everyday braille device users. So you're not expected as a Tbi to be a power user. That means, you know, all of the navigation commands and all of the shortcut keys. It's just not possible. If you're not a daily user, to have all of those commands right on the tip of your. There's just too many devices that our kids are using to know it all. So that's why we want you to seek out this group for help, or another group or resource that you have, such as local groups, vendors, local vendors, tech support, etc. So that you can have help when you need it. I also wanted to start with our office of education technology, guiding principles. And this is something that's preaching to the choir. We know that technology when he is appropriately, is for learning, and that it increases access to learning a opportunities for our kids. It's absolutely vital. It can strengthen the relationship between parents, families, educators, and kids. When used appropriately and can effectively, can be most effective for learning with adults and peers Especially when you have kiddos like I was. Who's very much an introvert, and who did not like asking questions or raising my hand or being seen in class. I like to ask questions by technology For your information there is a position paper out there about early childhood programs, birth through 8 and technology basically covering that not all screens are created equally. And I just included it up here for your information. Alright littles, little do what little to have you ever wondered, that when you give a student the task, and there's an unexpected meltdown. Why that happens. When you give them an activity. And you think, oh, we should be able to do this fine, and then let's see her success. The first thing with our littles and technology. Let's keep in mind their age and developmental level, just like with any other activity. We want to give them tasks that are appropriate to their age. Developmental level. I love this This little slide here Kiddo's coloring is about her is doing her coloring on her age level. And then the teacher, interactive Anna and Cindy are sitting at a table and are going to work on identifying letters of the alphabet. Cindy draws the letter, A with a crayon. Adriana takes the crayon, you do it a Yeah with your crayon. Now. Cindy folds her hands over Adrianne's hands, writing the letter a together a No, no! No! A no! A no! No! A Now, that's just an example of. Was this necessarily the most appropriate for this kiddo? Was that kid are ready for the writing of the A, or did she just want to color and scribble So the same comes in to account when we're working with our little, some technology. Are they ready for the skills that we're trying to introduce them? Are we giving them a note taker Early, and they don't understand what a filing system is, and how to put paper in a folder and a folder into a drawer or into a box. If they can't understand a filing system or a tree system where one element leads to another, then they're not necessarily ready to use all the elements of a noetaker, and we might need to look back on something else. If they don't know how to type at all, then they may not be ready to use a computer and jaws if they're listening. Skills are not good, then they are definitely not ready to hear everything that jaws is gonna throw at them. So let's look at what level they're on. We want to ask ourselves, is the student ready Is there an intermediate skill that I can teach to get them ready? And is there something fun that we can do that's age appropriate, that will allow us to move toward that skills So is the student ready? Does the student have listing comprehension skills that will allow them to focus on the verbal output that comes from jaws? Now for lack of a better word. Jaws has verbal vomit. It talks everything we know we've here. We've heard jaws. So are they able to fish through that and shift through it, and find the important parts. Our kinder first student may not be ready for that. Does the student have basic keyboard skills? Does the student understand the organization of a computer desktop or a filing system? All of those are skills that they need to be able to navigate the computer and understand what they're doing on the computer, much less work with jaws Did I skip one? No. Okay. So intermediate skills does the student have listening comprehension skills that allow them to focus on verbal output? If the answer is No, what can we do as tbis to work on those skills Anybody have any suggestions. I've I've put a couple up here I want to hear from you guys anything that's listening comprehension that we can work on outside of the classroom or in the classroom that will allow us to do improve listening skills Is everyone awake. 

>>Angela: I've been working with one of my students on a program that I found a listening program that I found here in the office, and the one we're working on right now is it has like background. Noise. And you have to focus on the teacher's voice 

>>Donna: Oh, that's awesome! Do you know what that program's called? 

>>Angela: Hold on, I can tell you. They credit Yes, in a pink box. It's called learning to listen. Following directions. And then it's from educational insights 

>>Donna: Learning to listen. That's awesome, and Sigh T or Si t 

>>Angela: Si ghts And it has little worksheets that come with it, and they have to listen to those instructions, and like they'll circle something, it'll say, like, circle the thing that you eat and like on this one there's this a sandwich draw a line from the thing that you eat to the thing that 

>>Donna: Oh, cool! 

>>Angela: You ride, and there's a bicycle And so they have to listen and follow the instructions on that 

>>Donna: Oh! Thank you, Angela. That's awesome. I've written that down I'll add that to our resources for this session. Shannon says games like Simon says, or I see. Yep, absolutely. Games are a wonderful place to to focus on. Listening, and Lucy worked on during a joint lesson with an O. And M. I am so glad you said that on Ms focus on listening a lot when we're at intersections and things like that. So identifying sounds in the environment that is perfect, weeding out that clutter, listening to what's there. So that's a great place. Thank you, Lucy. So we can also use audio books. A lot of our kiddos in the very beginning don't like the synthesizer sound of audio books. They like the human voice, but they really need to get used to using that that synthesis sizes, sound recorded items from class. If there is a lesson that can be recorded, and then listened to, we listened to. Then that's another way to practice. There's some listening comprehension activities that I've linked here. This one is an actual dissertation from University of Florida, but as the bottom I've gotten to, and I have it up digging through dissertations since I'm working on mine for ideas And I found this dissertation that has some activities that are down in the bottom And they give you activities that they tested during their dissertation. So like a mystery box, an object like a rattle Whistler piece of sandpaper block, sipper, bell, etc. And you have it in a mystery box. And the kiddo has to listen to the object behind a screen. So there's a lot of little activities within that Margaret says she likes to use book share for them to get used to that voice output absolutely easy place to get lots of of listening activities. Book share. This is a site on 4 ways to build listening, comprehension So it gives you some games to play and ways to talk to your kiddo. And different activities that you could try. So I really liked those. Slip. Slightly older kids should be used to the time and speech app right? That they use on tablets if they're using a tablet they may be. Mari says, ask your essential absolutely if our kids are seeing an slp then the Slp can help. If they're not seeing an essentialp and Slp can give you listening comprehension activities, and you can also talk to your classroom teacher and see if there's any reading, comprehension and listening comprehension that they're doing in class so the next question that I ask myself, for the kiddo is, does it student have basic keyboardings skills so if we're gonna use jaws, we need basic keyboarding skills plus a little bit extra because it's not just typing that the kiddos are doing they're needing to know the controls and The Alts and the shift insert and the function keys. All need to be known. Type ability with jaws is one of my favorites. It's not everyone's favorite. I like it because it's customizable. And it does include some jaws, commands in the lessons. Already. They also E include Listen. There's a good chance somebody's trying to Teacher, videos from yes, accessible Typing and computer tutor. So that you don't know you don't have to know how to do everything. Just set up for that They will show you how to do it. They will also show you how to add, and which lessons are on. There are on jaws, commands, and Lucy says that it's not just little who need to work on this. I there's no, and high school kiddos who have dreadful listening skills if it's not related to a video game. Well, yeah, I, I kind of agree with that. They're highly motivated by those video games. And I I tend to. Zone out on my video games as well. But there are things if we can gamify it. I, I, I hesitate to use that word. Some of our activities. We might be able to tap into that that game attention One of the other happy things about type of ability is that it includes navigation lessons that are customizable for adding lessons and practicing commands. So that is one of the benefits that say typing club and some of those don't necessarily have. There are other options. If you want to look at those they're on the apps and programs. T. Time from couple of weeks ago Alright! Is there something fun that we can do that's age appropriate for this skill? So for learning jaws, we're gonna need to know what the computer is set up like. So we can model our computer using an all in one board and some Velcro and little chits, or cut outs the cutouts can be the icons, and you can do a strip along the bottom that could be your task bar and that way. You're teaching them the position of things on the screen, and you can even record they have the little buttons from Aph, the little book buttons that you can press it. That records about 10 to 15 s. You can label those. And as the student touches the area you can press the button or attach the button to the to the icon when they press that icon. It's going to say what Jaws says That's one of the little games I like to play. Let's guess what jaws is. Gonna say, when we press the windows key to get to this spot on the screen, or when we go to this spot on the screen. So those little. What do they call it? Book buttons? I call them book buttons. They're from the talking book. Insert I'll link those as well And because they're they only play 10 to 15 s. It's easy to get a jaws command on them You can also mock up windows that are common like your download folder, or the trash folder those common folders that the kiddos are going to use. And why, I say, mock those up is because you're you're going to have taught them what a folder system is, and we'll get to that exercise in a minute. Any questions. So far any comments, so far When I present this part it, the it it's usually sparks to of one of 2 responses. Why, or that's kinda cool. So I'd like to know where everybody stands in that about doing a low tech introduction to the high tech computer Yes, Shannon, you will have a copy. They are posted on my website, which I'll give out at the end. They'll be posted usually by end of day tomorrow. Margaret likes the idea cool. Nina says she's often used the tactile tools to help students understand the layout of the desktop. And even the inside of a program, and find it works well and is motivating good I'm glad somebody else uses the idea so that everybody knows it works. Shannon likes the idea of pre teaching the concepts, and Susan says she's done the exact same activity with students, and it's super validating. Petty is great. Mars is love. The idea of using the All in one board. Even the classroom teacher can participate with the student absolutely Alright, so more activities that we can do prior to teaching jaws. And that's teaching the parts of the computer. Sometimes we forget that the kid needs to know what all of this is. That's on their desk, whether it's a laptop or a desktop, because at some point in their career or in their livelihood, they are going to have to call tech support and be able to use those Vocabulary words appropriately so while they're learning to to type, we can teach them what it means to boot or reboot. What an app or software is. What's the difference between an app and a software? What external drives are when the computer says, focus when jaw says, Focus, what does that mean? What a hard drive is, what it means to be on the Internet or off the Internet, which they probably by that age already know. What a keyboard is! What an external keyboard is operating systems, because they have to know what type of computer they're using? Are they using a windows? Computer? Are they using a Mac computer? Different operating systems. You can start by just having them working on pressing 2 keys at a time. Now, that doesn't necessarily have to be on a keyboard. It could be on a piano, it could be on anything that has keys. You can have them pressing 2 keys at a time, and kind of work. I like doing it on a piano, because some keys sound good together, some keys don't and that's kind of my way of teaching them that some keys work together, and we press them together, and some keys don't work together. So we don't press them together because it doesn't do anything And our littles have a hard time pressing those 2 keys with different fingers together. So that's something you can work with a music teacher on. If they're having a piano unit You can work with them on the beginnings of logging in or turning on and shutting down. They may not be able to navigate by themselves, but they can start learning how to turn on login and shut down And then I listed a lot of the keys and commands that are kind of the beginning keys. That's the alt. F. 4, which takes you to a shutdown menu. Most of our our kids go to this, win the windows to shut down, or they go to the search. And do you shut down And and unfortunately it won't work on mine, because that's an 11. But there's also an Alt. F. 4 which works on a lot of things. If you are on a desktop alt F. 4 will take you to the shutdown menu. If you are in a program, alt F. 4 will shut down that program. So it's a it's a neat little universal. Let's close everything down key, arrow keys move between objects. There need to know about arrow keys, what an arrow is shaped like, what an arrow does not only for computers, but for star testing. When they do the food web or in their science class, when they do the food web or the condensation cycle. What that arrow is, pointing to what that arrow means. So these are skills that are outside of the computer that can tie into their computer skills Alright. I've been going pretty fast, anybody else, for some other activity that we can do I'm making myself stop and take a drink when I ask a question, so I don't talk over everyone Alright! Alright. We've got some keys that we need to explore when we're learning to type Control windows, all space, bar shift, all of those keys that are outside the normal typing that are not really taught during typing class. We don't necessarily teach kiddos the nump pad in in typing class. But for our kids, it's Really important to teach them what the number pad is, what the bump on the 5 means. The orientation, because that's their jaws. Navigation pad. If there are using a laptop, they need to know how to turn on and off. That's that option Anything about except exploring. Keys, jaws, and alternate activities for those Alright, here's my other favorite activity. Does this do to understand the computer desktop or a filing system So when they start learning jaws, they're going to get things called Tree View tree views. How many have heard that? Raise your hand, clap, say yes, something. Yes, when we're working with jaws, when you get into your file management system, there's Tree View Tree View. 

>>Kevin: Yes. 

>>Donna: So they have to understand what that filing system means. So, starting to use those words at a young age. With that we are. We are making a file. Let's put our file in our folder, our folder is going to go in our in our filing system. Our file manager, and then when they get to that Tree View Tree view, you can say, Well, this is our file manager. Remember, our file manager was our our filing cabinet. And I put 2 examples here, one with just a filing cabinet. The other is a filing cabinet with shelves, because our filing system and our windows can all kind of be together, so that would be if you had folders and files on your desktop. And then you had little icons on your desktop, on your shelf. You could make that type of shelf, your whole desktop and go in and explore that desktop. So this is just my way of teaching filing and then converting that to the digital file system to make sure they understand that vocabulary and how it works Anybody else teach Filesystem a different way. I'd love other ideas Alright. So we're gonna head on to. Oh, did somebody say something 

>>Kevin: Okay. Okay. 

>>Donna: Kristen, is that you Okay. The caption is picking up something alright. So let's look at some resources. The first resource I put on here is a breakdown of skills by grade and age. I love this, I love this resource, and I use it a lot. So it is linked on my website. It's right here under assistive technology guidelines from Mdoe. And it breaks down by grade level. So I wanted to take some time to look at this today. Look over it, and Really, see. Yeah, it's from Michigan. But that stuff is so good that I haven't found anything better, or to match it. So if you've found something better, or something that would match this, let me know. I'd love to share it Alright! So this is our kinder pre-kinder, and they have a nice little key for you. It says that at this age our students should be demonstrating and understanding that people may use electronic tools. So we're just having exploration and conversations like we could have a hunt of what tools are being used all over the school and have them find those out. But it does give you some activities to do use basic terminology and describe the components of the system like we talked about. This is one of those prerequisite skills explore the use of keyboard and perform basic operations with teacher systems. So those that's where we're teaching them how to. Maybe log in sign out, but they have still have our assistance. At that age Demonstrate the safe operation and proper care of technology. So even at this age, we're teaching them. We're not going to throw our phone on the floor or our tablet on the floor. Is someone unmuteing to talk. I can't tell. I can hear someone. But if you're wanting to ask, please interrupt me. Explored experience. The use of at devices like magnification and software, braille and March print. We're just exploring at this age, and then we get to our pre-kinder transition and we're gonna start using. So we're gonna start introducing those single content technologies we're not gonna be working on. Huge devices yet, but we can work on, say, the braille Bug, or the the Mount Baton. Those single type use single concept items. And these are 

>>Patti-Ann: Well. 

>>Donna: What was that? Somebody is unmuted and Patty, did you have a question Okay. Sierra says, will you have access to this assistive technology? Guidelines form. Yes, it is. How's here on my website? I also have the link to the full Michigan website, where the guidelines are posted. It's just most folks come over to the my site, anyway. So I went ahead and posted them for you. And so those of you that are working on that first and second grade area, and you'll notice I didn't. I didn't point this out before, but there are the 6 areas that they're working on. They're working on operation and concepts with technology, creative creativity and innovation, communication and collaboration, critical thinking problem solving and decision-making research and information literacy and digital citizenship. So there are working on all of those topics Sorry it is the same on the kinder first. So you're able to make your goals and things like that from from this this document, when it comes to those prerequisites technology skills, it really is one of my favorite tools Any questions about where we're going so far, where we've done so far Okay. So if you need help. Vendors are very valuable tools, freedom, scientific humanware, crystal vision. If you don't have crystal vision as one of your vendors, I'd highly recommend them. They have wonderful support. Jack and Bobby are power users of jaws and bronze. Note, touch. So they're able to help you when you need it. They are wonderful humanware. If you're using the human word device, they have wonderful support. I know it's not jaws. That's not what we're talking about today. But I just wanted to brag about them on this humanware buddy. I wish every vendor we had had this type of app, but they're humanware. Buddy has how to guide, and everything streaming straight through an app that works for teachers. So that was just my way of bragging on them a little bit So when it comes to far freedom scientific, who makes jaws. Now we still say jaws. But jaws now comes in the bundle of fusion. Okay. Most of our kiddos are using fusion Which is a commonation of both. So when they install on their computer, they get jaws zoom, text and fusion. Okay? So that if you've got a kiddo who is dual Then you can use fusion which gives them visual visual zoom, gives them some of the functionality of the zoom and the functionality of jaws, and they work well together so if you've got a little who is you're thinking going to be dual, media you can use that Fusion Programs that will allow you to zoom in and do jaws And the commands work Any questions on that part That this is my way of being sneaky with our kiddos that don't necessarily want the voice, and would prefer to have their nose Pushed up against the screen, then to listen to what the computer is saying. So it's kind of my sneaky way of let's use fusion And introducing them to fusion. So the reason why I wanted to take you to freedom scientific is because they do have training centers on jaws, fusion and zoom text, which is lovely, well written, well done, video tutorials. They've added math and jaws, which is cool They have a training and certification center where you can not only train on these Programs. If you want, you can become a jaws or zoom text certified instructor And then they have their Youtube channel, where they do wonderful videos about different different things that jaws and fusion zoom. Text does. Now there are a lot of videos out there that kids do. If you have a kiddo that's exploring and a lot of our young ones do in Youtube, they may find their favorites They may find their favorite person, that they like to listen to on Youtube and learn how to do things that way. It's not uncommon for our kids to find somebody that they like who is also visually impaired on the on the Youtube channels. And Lucy. Yes, thank you. And Lucy was just commenting about. I'm assuming the fusion. That is my more palatable for kiddos. Alright! There's some paid and free curriculum out there for helping you teach jaws. Now it. It's just an something I've been recently learning about. If you're coming to T. A. R. He is speaking at our precaution. I believe, and that is coding the plot and some of his webinars and trainings are paid for, and some of them are not. But if you go to his screen, reader. The Mini course. Introduction to screen reader is free, and then, once you get into the instructor editions, there's a cost to those relatively low cost compared to some of the other ones. I've seen. It's 3 49 for part one and 1 99 for part 2 And he does bundles, which is nice, cause some of our folks don't. 

>>Bill: Hey? Donna. Can I? Can I jump in real quick? I I just wanted to let you guys know that for jaws and zoom text certification. 

>>Donna: Yes, Bill. Sure. 

>>Bill: I highly endorse it and believe in it as a as a tool to help at least show you where you're at. As far as you know, your your ability to to understand jaws and zoom text the exams for certification are free to take. You need an hour worth of time. It's 85 questions, multiple choice and multiple select. 

>>Donna: Yeah. 

>>Bill: You don't have to pay a dime unless you pass the exam. When you pass the exam you can purchase a certificate. Right, but there's no cost involved for anyone who wants to take either of the 2 certification exams. 

>>Donna: Oh! 

>>Bill: And then, if, for whatever reason, if you if you, if you don't pass right, it will be you, it will generate a small report of the different areas that they tested you on, and it'll tell you what you scored in those areas, so you know where you need to brush up on your skills in order to pass The exam, you need an 80% or better to pass. So that that's that's all I got right. Now you go to freedom, scientific.com, and you will look under services and there'll be a certification link. There, and and right there it'll have all the information that you need for certification, for for jaws and for zoom text there is not one for fusion, but they recommend that if you want one for fusion, that you pass or you're taken past both the jaws and the zoom text one and that should 

>>Donna: LED, 

>>Bill: Cover you for fusion. Yup, yes, ma'am, no phone 

>>Donna: Awesome Bill. Thank you. I've been. I've been to shaking in my boots to take the test 

>>Bill: Well, the A, and and, by the way, your your scores go nowhere like they just go to you. 

>>Donna: Oh, well, that's nice! 

>>Bill: Yeah, they just go to you. They're not gonna publish them on on Twitter, you know. They're gonna say, Donna Clement's got an 81 like it's not gonna happen that way. But but but at least give everybody an idea of where they're at. And again it's free to take right. So you don't have to. You don't have to worry about it. Don't beat yourself up if you don't do as well as you want to do, but if you if you pass, you can purchase a certificate, they're 50 bucks and you can recertify once a year, and I think it's like half price. I think it's like 25 or $29 to recertify after you've done it the first time. 

>>Donna: Oh, awesome! 

>>Bill: So yeah, just something that people, I think, should know when they're out there and toward the end, if you want me to, I have a couple of pieces of advice for people when it comes to training jaws. 

>>Donna: You can completely add those in at any time. I was just gonna let them know that under resources, training, and certification in the handouts they'll get for today. 

>>Bill: So if you want me to. Yeah, alright. Well, I'll Yup! 

>>Donna: And Nina linked it in the chat. But under training and certification from freedom scientific, you have the link to the training and certification site And Bill absolutely 

>>Bill: Yeah. When are we ready? I don't have to do it now, whenever, yeah, okay. 

>>Donna: Oh, you can right now. We're good 

>>Bill: So I I have a couple of pieces of advice for people that are that are training with students and stuff. Okay. And it's just 2 or 3 pieces here. Right. So number one, I highly recommend that when you first start working with the student that you make sure that that student understands the keyboard right understands where all the keys are in the keyboard, I'm not just talking about the letters. There's a lot of keys that jaws users have to use. For example, the ins, the insert key, the applications queue, the left and right mouse click, buttons, the jaws cursor, the PC. Cursor, there! There's a bund like, what do some of the function keys do? It's really important that your kids, your students, no matter what age, are on the same page when it comes to using jaws, because a lot of times they learn from either sighted kids cited siblings, you know. And and a lot of cited people sort of ignore a lot of those keys that I just mentioned. So just make sure that when you first start working with a student, or if you've had a long break with a student, make sure that they're on the same page, and that they know where the keys are, that they're gonna be using especially like some of those rare keys that you know, again cited, people Don't use, but jaws users actually do use. Number 2. Everybody loves these hot key lists. Right? The hot key guide the hot key list. Everyone loves them. And I think they're a great resource. But I get concerned when people start teaching based on keystrokes and not concepts in order for these keystrokes to work, the student has to understand their environment they have to know where they're at at the time that they're going to use these keystrokes. And so it's really important that you you guys focus on teaching concepts, even though it might be easy to just grab that hot key guide and start spitting, spitting out hot keys right? The job is is difficult when it comes to training students. And so I I think it's really important that we kinda are are on the same page when it comes to stuff like that. I see a lot of people training using that hot key guide as a crutch I think it's again a great resource. I think we need to keep doing it, but we also need to be be very careful to not just throw out hot keys into into really understand the lay of the land on windows, and and and how it works. Or if you're using a Mac, the same concept applies like understanding the lay of the land that's how these kids are going to be successful is by getting that stuff embedded into their into their little brains. From from a concept standpoint like from from learning that environment how do you get to the file? Manager like why why would you want to go to the file manager? Where is the file manager located, where all these things located? That's more important than any kind of keystroke that you can alright so, or at least it's as important. 

>>Donna: That's why I was sneaky today, Bill. Good getting them in here and showing them how to teach file manager. 

>>Bill: And yeah, yeah. Yeah. 

>>Donna: And Nina says exactly. She agrees that she thinks tasks for students like over things, and closing things and saving documents and and teaching the keystrokes in those contexts is highly important. So totally agree with you there. And I was a little sneaky with today's session, and didn't do many keystrokes at all. 

>>Bill: Dude. You were great as always, so don't don't stress it. You're you're fantastic 

>>Donna: Alright. Well, thank you so much, Bill. We always love your input. And if you have any more you can add it at any time. Okay. So we had it, which has, which is what we were showing with some curriculums, and step by steps, because if you have not taught jaws from the beginning, then you may really fall back on that on that crutch of commands, instead of task oriented teaching or concept oriented Teaching, mystic access. This is a some folks found this a while ago. I just found this in the last few weeks really excited about it. It does training and audio format. So your kiddos can access them. Independently. Let's see. So they have free audio downloads, and they list what kind of items they go over. So it's mainstream devices as well as software tutorials which can include things that I don't even know what they are So there's a lot of training here, including human wear products. So I really like that training site. It's one of the ones I go to. I put training? Where on here? I don't know if many have heard about it. It is a full training system for assistive technology. It's online. It is subscription based. It is a very handy curriculum, but it is not sheep, and being a very frugal Teacher and person. To begin with, let me see if I can show it to you. Here. I did not want to pay the amounts that they We're we're giving you have a dashboard, apparently. Now it may not be the same, but when I used it, you pay by teacher, and then you had unlimited students. But the teacher price was quite big. But if you go to your students like this student, it says that they were doing chrome, using fusion, and their next their lesson is getting started with fusion. It won't let me go onto it here, but I can go to this one Maybe Okay. Their exploration is not working today. But basically you would choose Says we can view all the lessons, but only one lesson for each course is available. Preview We're supposed to be able to view at least that lesson And of course it doesn't work. But anyway, it it does have a step by step. Lesson with pre test tests. Vocabulary lists, tracking and reports, since it's an online platform, it allows you to teach the student from that online platform and keep your records. So you're not putting the student on it. You are tracking the student and teaching the student from the online platform. If that makes sense to everybody. But again, the link is here to get a price. You have to call the gentleman who owns the company, and then he gives you the quote, for how many ever teachers or students you need Books and documentation. I've put quite a few up here that are general that do contain jaws in them, but aren't necessarily jaws specific The assistive technology for blind and low vision, accessibility. That's through a Ph, I really like this book. I have it on my shelf, and it goes just about everywhere with me. This is a list of technology guides for blind users. So it's listed by technology. And Taylor to blind users. So it has some nice Using windows. 11 with screen reader getting started, and some regional 11, added keystrokes that were there, how to power the power of Powerpoint, and using a screen reader to create presentations. Most of these have a small fee, but some of them are very good books. Thank you. Bill. Assistive technology for students visually impaired by Ike Presley, who I adore and his things are amazing, and every time he comes out with something I I'm right on top of it. I think this is the newer one Access world from American Federation for the Blind. Has a lot of nice articles about, do you? An upcoming technology. And what's advancing on each device. So we wanna make sure that we're up to date on what devices are being used. And then for some listening activities I couldn't find this any cheaper. But if you are really stuck on listening activities for classroom curriculum, this is a the book from Amazon that is just completely devoted to listening activities. And how did how to build up that listening comprehension Alright! We are coming to the end. We've got about 2 min left. My resources as always, are available on my website Which I will link again in the chat And we have just enough time to go through What's coming up in the next 2 months? Alright! February second star and Braille displays step by step. Things have changed weekly on this and been updated. So if you came to the one a couple of months ago, this is different. Well, it's an upated version of that, and we have more updated commands that include keyboard and brown display commands for our kids navigating the star test with Braille, February ninth. John Rose has extended his abacus series for the spring in a 2 part, so he has spring part one on February ninth Ap. Is coming to visit finally. Yay, so excited on February sixteenth, to tell us what's new, and coming up February twenty-sixth, we will be taking a break for the deaf blind symposium, so there will be no Tete that week. March, second teaching voice over where to start is going to be march second march ninth. Is gonna be John Roses spring part 2 of continued advocates. Then March sixteenth, and March twenty-third. We will not have t time. Ease of those weeks. One is for spring break, the other is for tae-e are come, join us in Denton, for Tair. Lots of good stuff happening there. All right. It is 40'clock on the dots.