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Partnering for Empowerment - TSBVI Outreach is Here for YOU!
8/18/2025

>>Cairns: Thank you, Casey. Appreciate the intro. Hello, everybody. As Casey said, my name is Erica Cairns. Thank you for joining us for Partnering for Empowerment, How TSBVI Outreach is here for you.

>>Fayard: Thank you. Good to see so many familiar names, too, in the chat.

>>Cairns: Absolutely. So, I am the Director of Outreach. My background is as a TVI. I've had the opportunity to work in a variety of different settings, from self-contained to VI resource classrooms to many, many years as an itinerant, and now I am delighted to be here at TSBVI Outreach.

>>Fayard: And I am Belinda Fayard. I am now the Assistant Director for Outreach. For the past 2 years, I have been here in Outreach as a transition consultant, so we may have worked together in that capacity. But I'm a teacher for students with visual impairments, and so I have also been itinerant in a variety of settings, in cooperatives, in large districts, small districts, and I've been an independent contractor. And then finally, probably my most important role, I'm a parent of a young adult with a visual impairment. All right. Now, we all love pictures, right? We had to showcase our students, because that's the best part of what we do. We're showing 8 images of students here at TSBVI, and then in the community, engaging in various lessons that represent the expanded core curriculum. That's what we're all about, right? Cultivating success in every student through that ECC. So, in these pictures, you'll see a technology lesson, a student sharing a fabulous display of cinnamon rolls, like, right out of the oven, a student grocery shopping, one using a monocular on the playground, a student demonstrating self-advocacy at white cane day, another exploring a plant, one working on his weekly budget and a student engaging in shared communication with a partner. So we support all of the students who are blind, deafblind or have low vision across Texas. We also support their families and districts, along with partnering with state agencies and community partners. And we're going to tell you a little bit more about how we do that today. 

>>Cairns: Okay. So we would like to start off by sharing our vision and mission of TSVBI, which is something we take very seriously. There are nearly 11,000 students in the State of Texas who are blind, low vision or deafblind and of those majority are remaining in their home communities with y'all, with less than 150 who actually attend TSVBI's comprehensive programming. So partnering with you and collaborating with you is incredibly important to us. So we want to make sure that all of our students are empowered to lead productive and fulfilling lives, and we also want to serve as a leading center of expertise and resources and work in partnership with you and the schools and families and communities as well as other organizations like HHSC, Texas Workforce Commission, All Blind Children, so that we make sure we're transforming educational outcomes for all of our students, birth through 22, who are blind, visually impaired or deafblind. In terms of our philosophy, we want y'all to know that this mission isn't just words, that it's backed by the people of Texas through the work of our state legislature. The funding that we receive each year directly impacts our ability to serve students throughout the state. In fact, in the most recent session, we were awarded the resources to add three new positions to our outreach department. Positions that will strengthen our partnerships with families, communities and educational teams across the state. Legislative decisions like this have a real and immediate effect on our capacity to serve, which is why staying informed and engaged in the process is so important. And, again, we want to make sure that we are serving all of the students in Texas. 

>>Fayard: So let's look at what makes up our team, who are our people. Many of you are familiar with them, if they come out to do a consultation or you've come to conferences or trainings. Pictured here is last year's -- or a part of last year's blind and low vision team. We have 19 consultants and this highlights some of -- some of the specialties that we have here, family engagement, transition, orientation and mobility, early childhood, Braille literacy, assistive technology, we have a mentor coordinator. That's one of the changes in our team. We have an exciting addition here, I think she's in the meeting here with us, Courtney Foreman has joined as our statewide mentor center coordinator. We're really excited to have her. And then we have expertise in the area of math and STEM and professional developmentment and in partnership with our bef blind team, we produce the digital magazine Texas senseAbilities and a wide range of others. Outreach houses the Texas deafblind project and we have seven consultants who have specialized experience and training supporting students, families and districts in a wide range of topics for students who have that combined sensory loss. And I'm also excited to share, we've added a new team member this year, Brenda billhart. She comes to us with exsentive experience as a diagnostician and teacher. Great addition to our team. And we also have two enter prosecute teres that you will see in some of our trainings and meetings. 

>>Cairns: Erica here. I just would also like to add that the deafblind coordinator position is one of the new positions added by legislation and we are excited that Kaycee Bennett is taking that role on which allowed us to bring on brenna as a consultant. Very exciting. 

>>Fayard: And we have our admin and audiovisual team. If you've had any questions when you're trying to register for a conference, you might have talked to our administrative team, and then you see the folks with the cameras, so this is not a picture of our team. This is a photo that they have taken of students and some of the offcampus activities, and so they help us with our archives, getting those pictures for our presentations and supporting the mentor center, supporting some of the other trainings that are happening here at the school. And we are also adding a new position for web content and communication coordinator. That position is actually posted right now on our website, so please take a look if you know someone who may be interested in that, and send them our way. 

>>Cairns: Okay, Erica here. So now we're going to get into an overview of some of the technical assistant supports we can offer to you as you navigate this new school year. So we have a series of conferences that we typically host over the course of two years. We begin planning our conferences at least two years in advance so these have been in the works for a while, or at the very least, are in the early planning process. So we have SWOMA coming up in November, November 6th through eighth. That will be hosted virtually this year, which is exciting, so hopefully more folks across the state and nation will be able to participate. In May we will be hosting our low vision conference. That will be held here in Austin. In June, we are excited to have Texas Focus back in person. The last Texas Focus was offered remotely, so we're happy to be able to bring people together in Round Rock for that in-person opportunity. And then we just had this past February an amazing Texas Symposium on Deafblind Education. And so we'll be hosting that again in 2027. And that, too, will be in Round Rock. In addition to our conferences that we offer annually or every other year, we also have a series of trainings that are pretty much always going to be available to you from year to year. Family recharge zones are set. That's a wonderful opportunity for families to come together in a virtual setting, so those will be held on August 21st, October 23, January 29th and March 2nd. And Belinda, do you want to add anything else about family recharge before I talk about the others? 

>>Fayard: I would love to. Yes, I'm a part of that team, and so we have these opportunities for family members who have loved ones who have -- are blind, have low vision or deafblind, and we come together, we usually have a topic that we present on for like the first 30 minutes of the meeting. And so this Thursday, we're having our first one of the year, and it's sort of back-to-school, how many to communicate with the team, how to kick the year off with a great relationship and get things going smoothly. And then for the next hour of the session, we really encourage families to ask whatever questions they want to ask. And it often turns into a great opportunity for them to connect with one another. You guys know, out in districts, sometimes families may be -- especially if you're in a small district or a small campus, sometimes families may not have somebody else that they can talk to who -- who have children in the same situation. So it's nice that they're able to ask questions of one another and connect, and we are starting to do these on the road now as well. Last year we offered family recharge zone in person in the Rio Grande Valley at education service center 1, and it was phenomenal. We had families connecting and really supporting one another in a really amazing way. So we thought we'd like to bring this around the state. And this year we're going to focus on North Texas, and then in coming years, we will, you know, move to maybe the Houston area, West Texas, so be on the lookout for those family recharge zones to happen, but in the meantime, it is virtual on those dates. It's free. And we would love for families to join us. Caregivers, whether it's grandma, a sister, whoever it is, that is working with the child every day at home and probably needs some -- some connection to other adults doing the same thing. It makes a difference. As a Mom myself, I can say that does make a big difference. 

>>Cairns: Belinda, why don't you go ahead and cover discovering the future and I'll cover the other options. 

>>Fayard: Yeah. Discovering the future is also another exciting class that we offer here. I don't think I truly understood when I was itinerant the value that this has. We have a lot of programs that I -- until you've had someone go, you might not realize how amazing it is. But Discovering the Future is one of those. This is offered for families. So parents or the caregiver come for a weekend, they stay at a hotel here in Austin, and, you know, they're -- these are families who have students who are typically high school or 18 plus, sometimes we've had students in -- family of students with middle schoolers come, too, but they're typically students who have complex access needs or just are going to need some lifelong support. Probably not a student who's going to typically come to, like, short-term programs here at TSC. They may have a little bit more difficulty with that side of things, so these are students who need a little bit more support. The families come for the weekend, and we offer this programming in like a conference center at a hotel. We come to them. And we get them started on a person-centered planning process. So they're coming together with these other families, networking and connecting, and really starting to think kind of outside of the box about what brings their child joy and what are ways that we can shape their life, because after school, like their daily schedule, so that they have already a system in place. They've got the resources in the community. We make sure they're connected with the waivers, with TWC, our Blind Children's program and we help get them on the right foot to go back to their district then and share what they've learned about this person-centered planning process and continue the process there with the school and the community. It's very exciting. 

>>Cairns: Wonderful. Thank you for sharing that, Belinda. We also offer an intervenor training. That typically happens each October, and that's a workshop that provides a brief overview of topics related to implementing a team approach, to intervenor services when working with students who are deafblind and have multiple disabilities in an educational setting. The deafblind project works really hard to offer that training each year, and they're also able to come out and support y'all in district with intervenor support, which is fantastic. Of course y'all know about coffee hour, because you are here, and we are so happy that you are. These are held each Monday. The first the three Mondays of the month at 3:00 p.m. central time. And we are excited to announce a slight change this year, and that is we are including tech tea time into our coffee hours. So if you were familiar with Tech Tea Time last year, Donna Clemens, our assistive technology whiz, would host Tech Tea Time every Thursday from 3:00 to 4:00 and would have different vendors and specialists talk about different types of assistive technology. Moving forward this year, that is going to be offered on the fourth Monday of each month from 3:00 to 4:00. And so we're excited to have Donna join the coffee hour umbrella with Tech Tea Time. All right. In addition to the trainings that are kind of, you know, always available, we also are happy to create whatever you may need. We have some behavior trainings, we do low vision on the road. That one's fantastic. Cindy Bachover comes out with different low vision devices and works with students and their TVIs and Comms to get them excited about using their devices. We can do active learning trainings. There's a training for pr proficient communicators in the deafblind world, and if there's something you have seen or heard, please reach out to us and we can put something together for you. We can also support your region or district with local events such as Babies Day Out, transition fairs, high school career fairs, roles and spopts training, VI, one on one and more. If you have ideas you'd like us to consider, reach out. We do send out a needs assessment every January, and so your feedback, we really consider that carefully as we develop future resources and trainings and webinars and online content, as well as the means and methods for distributing and delivering that. So if you're finding that you really would like to see more online courses, that's where you can let us know so we can make sure those are being put into development. Belinda, anything to add there? 

>>Fayard: You know, I would add for discovering the future, that's one that we do typically offer here in Austin every other year, but it is also one that we can take on the road and bring to a region or district, if you have a need for, you know, some personalized planning for students who are looking at transition. We can do that with families in a group. So, yeah, we can customize training, we can make it all happen. Okay. Technical assistance, so for outreach, this is another big part of what we do. We want to make sure that every one knows this really is a partnership. So our website has a variety of topics where you can look at articles in our magazine, you can look at coffee hour, you can go to Bridge and get some trainings. We have an extensive archive of materials that you can look through. We also have a tech lending library, you see the tech loan listed here. So you can check out equipment that you might not have available in your district or your region, and so you can try it and see what works. We have great information in these resources about best practices, supporting families, preparing for summer break, all kinds of topics. So we also want you to know that we are available to come to your district or community and provide technical assistance like for a specific student or scenario. So you can ask us general questions, we can do trainings, like specifically related to an individual student, and we can do consultations for those students. We can also come for family engagement events. I mentioned Family Recharge Zone. We have a family engagement specialist on both of our teams, and they come to exhibit at various fairs. There are transition festivals that happen in different districts or regions, we come and support those, literacy conferences. We've come to a variety of things to offer support and share information. And we want to emphasize the technical assistance that's available. We are partners, right? We want to -- we want everyone to know that asking for support, having TSBVI come out and support you with a student isn't a reflection of your ability to serve your student, we are just another tool in your toolbox for collaboration and support. And we want to remind you, too, that your ESCs are great resources right there in your backyard that can come and support you. Sometimes they recommend, okay, next step, let's get some training or support from TSVBI and then outreach can come. So we'll tell you a little bit more about what this technical assistance or a consultation might look like. Or did you have something you wanted to add, Erica? 

>>Cairns: Yes. We're so lucky in Texas to have our education service centers. We've got 20 different regions throughout the state. Those of you who are in Texas, please reach out to your VI consultant at your local ESC. For those of you who are attending from out of state, we know it can look very different depending on different code and things like that, so we just encourage you to investigate what other resources are available in your state based on that. 

>>Fayard: Yes. Exactly. We are very lucky here in Texas. So requesting technical assistance, what does that look like? If you e-mail us directly or call us, we will likely direct you to a form. Since we are grant funded, the government likes to know what we're up to, we have to track all of that data. So we have a contact form. It's a Google form, accessible, very simple to fill out, and we meet on Mondays, both teams meet and review these requests that come in. And this could be for information, this could be, you know, a request to come out, it could be for one of those exhibit tables. So fill out the form and that initial meeting -- so what we'll do is we'll assign someone on the teams to be that person to contact you, set up an initial meeting, and in that initial meeting, we like to have someone from the sensory team, the classroom teacher, related service provider, sometimes the parents, if that's appropriate, and we ask, if possible, that the district consider covering some of our consultant travel once we do come out. And we have a form for that as well, so you would get information about that. But after the initial meeting where we learn about what the challenge is or the question that you might like some support with, we will schedule the on-site visit, and that's often paired with a home visit, if the family is up for that. So we come down, go to the home in the evening, see -- you know, because we do cover home school and community, right? So we go to the home, find out what the family is working on, what questions they may have. And then we go to the school, typically spend the day there, try to see as much as we can and meet with the TVI, the O & M, the teachers, and then we come back and gather all of the information, we have received all of the school records before we come so that we have a picture of what's going on. And then based on the observation, the records and then the questions, whatever you needed support with, we -- very soon after that day, we have a reflection meeting where we come together with everyone and talk about how the visit went, what the concerns were, we write up a formal report to share with you the recommendations, and then we provide ongoing support. If you need us to come back again, there have been times when we've come out and it just was not a regular day or maybe there was a behavior concern and it didn't happen that day, the student was having the best day ever, you just -- you never know. So we are available to come out again and offer ongoing support, or maybe your team needs some training. Maybe we've identified, you know, that there's a paraprofessional who's new to the field and the TVI would really like to do a formal training for a paraprofessional support, we can come back and do that, so lots of options. It really is, we're all coming together and reflecting on what were the challenges and how can we meet this student's needs and the team's needs. 

>>Cairns: Yeah, Erica here. And outreach -- and Belinda went over our team, we are a large team, which is exciting, because we can really make sure that the areas where you feel you would like to have that collaboration, we have different team members who can best support that, our family engagement specialists are phenomenal, Agina and Yolanda are fantastic additions to the team for these consultations. Our transition specialists for our students who are in that 14 plus range, we're making sure that we have folks at the table who can answer your questions and help guide conversation with you. Okay. So now we're going to shift gears a little bit and talk about some of the other work outreach does that can support your students as well. And that is related to the American printing house for the blind as well as the annual VI registration or child count census. We have so many different names for the same thing. So a quick word on APH, we work closely with them, you've heard APH but aren't quite sure what it is, it is a nonprofit that produces educational workplace and independent living products. And we are able to purchase products from APH, equipment, material and get them to you for your students, and so I'm going to talk a little bit about what that process is. So first we need to start with the annual VI registration. In order to obtain the quota funding, this registration or child count has to occur annually. And so we do this every January. Every student who is blind, low vision or deafblind and receiving special education services or 504 is counted throughout the state. There are two separate counts, one for VI and one for deafblind. Our deafblind students are counted in both. And then based on those counts, funds are generated based on those student numbers. Here in Texas, all of the funds land in one pot for the entire state, and TSBVI is the fiscal agent along with TEA for that money. And then as I said, we get to use it to purchase quota items. When you go onto the APH website to search for items in their shop, there's always a statement whether an item or piece of equipment is available for purchase with those quota funds. A couple of things to keep in mind: Funds are not allocated to specific students or districts. So every student counted in Texas receives a certain amount of money, and like I said, that money goes into one large pot. And then, let's see, we purchase those items using those funds, and when we do that, they become property of the State of Texas. So when they are no longer in use by your student, best case scenario for that high-cost technology, it's coming back to us so that we can make sure other students are able to use it throughout the state. And then here's the kicker: When the money runs out, when that pot is empty, that's it. We are out of funds. Luckily for us, we have a strong partnership with the Texas Education Agency. This past year, they worked really hard to secure additional funds for us to use so that when that APH quota fund was used, we still had money to purchase equipment and materials. We are in the process of applying for a grant so that we have additional-- we're calling it gap funding for next year as well, so that we can make sure every student in Texas who needs assistive technology through quota funds has access to them. So why is the VI registration so important? Take a minute and drop your ideas in the chat. Why do we do this every year in addition to the funding? Quiet chat today. Well, as I mentioned part of it is funding. And that funding allows us to purchase equipment for our students, as well as other materials. But it also allows us to identify trends. When you're completing that child count for the VI registration, we're learning about how many children are birth to three in your area, we're learning about the different types of causes or etiologies for visual impairment, we're learning about the STAAR test they took and we're able to analyze that data to identify trends. Those trends are what help to drive policy, not just here in the State of Texas but throughout the nation. Oh, I see someone added to know how many professionals we need in the field. Absolutely. We also have specialists here in Outreach who focuses on personnel preparation. We have an advisory group here in the state that focuses solely on that, so Cecilia Robinson works very closely with our educator preparation programs at Texas Tech and FFA, and so we know how many folks are going through those programs to gain certification and it's also helping us to figure out how can we recruit, how can we bring more people into the field so that we make sure we have enough staff to serve those 11,000 students here in Texas. Okay. So as I mentioned, TSBVI is the fiscal agent for those APH quota funds. You will need to check in your own local policy to see who in your district is responsible for ordering those items, because it can vary from district to district and school to school. So some of you may be directly responsible for contacting us here at TSVBI to order those materials. Others may have a designated person on your campus or district who reaches out to do so. We do have a form on our APH website. We process those forms in the order that they are received. We do have two separate forms, one for regular materials and low-cost equipment, and one for high-cost equipment and technology, and the reason we do that is because we need to have an AT assessment in place to ensure that the material -- or the equipment that we're purchasing through quota funds is truly meeting the student's needs. So we have someone here on staff, Carrie Gillespie, who manages those high-cost forms and will collaborate with you closely to ensure that the appropriate technology is ordered. Once those orders are placed, they are shipping directly from APH to you in your district. We are unable to ship equipment and APH materials to home addresses. We know many of you are itinerants and that may be the easiest course of action, but due to the equipment becoming property of the State of Texas, we do need it to ship to a local education agency address. And if you have any questions about that, please feel free to let us know and we can support you and if we need to consider other options. We do have some APH quota asks. I know there's been different messaging in the past. Our hope, our goal is one day to be able to ask you to send in any bit of equipment or material from APH that you no longer use, but we do not currently have the staff in place to manage all of those returns, so right now, we ask if you have high-cost technology that's purchased through APH quota funds or APH Braillers that are not being used, to send them back to TSVBI. Again, they are property of the state and we would love to be able to get them to other students who may need them. We also ask that you please only order materials based on your student's current needs. We know that when things look sparse, it sometimes feels safer to go ahead and order things that we might need in the future, but, again, to ensure that we have funds in the quota pot to meet the needs for our students throughout the entire year, we ask that you only request items that the student currently needs. Are there any questions about that? Just checking the chat. Okay. So we have some very exciting news. I mentioned the grant we had with TEA that covered additional funding for APH materials. TEA was also able to secure over $5 million for a Monarch to be purchased for every student in the state who was counted in the 2024 census as being a primary Braille reader. So for those of you who are unfamiliar, the Monarch is an amazing refreshable Braille display/device. It's the first multiline device of its kind. It's got 10 lines by 32 cells of refreshable Braille. We are working on a plan to roll these out. We currently have them all here in stock, and are creating a plan with your ESCs so that we can get these into the hands of your students. I want to say as soon as possible, but I think that in order for us to be responsible, we want to make sure that we have the trainings and supports that you need to be able to provide this to your students with additional instruction and training so that they can use it effectively and efficiently in the classroom. We know that the resources are varied right now in terms of time and staff, and we want to make sure you all have what you need for the Monarch to be the exciting experience that it's meant to be. So we will have more information out to the education service centers soon, and we'll be funneling that information out to you as well so that we can get these going and get everybody trained so that our students have this additional access and opportunity for success, not just in school, but throughout their communities as well. One last note on the Monarch for now, while it is an APH item and it is technically available for purchase using APH quota funds, we will not be able to purchase them in that way. So if you have a student who would benefit from this device, we'll be out, reaching out soon. Again, we use the VI registration to capture those students, so we'll be in touch. I will say if you had a student recently come to you who would benefit from the student, you are welcome to reach out to us and I've got contact info on the next page. Carrie Gillespie is one of our APH assistants, she managed the high-cost technology and is working closely with our AT specialists Donna Clemens on the Monarch rollout, and Suzanne Slayed is also an APH assistant and she focuses her work on ordering the lower cost materials, so she's one you will be in touch with quite a bit if you order APH. 

>>Fayard: Awesome. And, you know, Erica, I wanted to mention something else that Outreach does that you guys are probably very familiar with in the State of Texas, and that's our partnership with short-term programs. We have several classes that we work very closely with short-term programs to teach. So, for example, Game of Life, you may be familiar with that for some of your middle school students who are starting to think about transition and getting ready for, you know, that new level of independence. So when you apply for programs like that through TSV's website, short-term program's piece of that, those students are being taught most of that weekend by short-term program staff and then the parents also come, they come for Game of Life and they come for the new one that we just started last year called College of Vocational Prep. The parents come to outreach and we -- we put them in a hotel and they come to the campus during the day and we do some fabulous lessons with those parents talking about how to help them learn to step back so that their students can start to step up and take responsibility and mature and grow, and that parents become comfortable doing that. Because that can be a little bit scary for some of our friends. We also partner with Criss Cole rehab center and our parents go over to Criss Cole during this weekend and they all go under blind fold and do some cooking lessons, so they learn about safe techniques in the kitchen, they learn about some independent living strategies, like managing an apartment, marking medicine, cans, like canned goods. So it's really a wonderful, wonderful lesson for families. And, again, they get to be with other families, so, for example, middle schoolers, they're all parents of middle schoolers who are dealing with vision loss and learning to let their kiddo do their own laundry and make a grilled cheese and learn that it can be safe. Criss Cole does a great job with our families. There are tears every time because parents are scared and they think there's no way they can imagine their baby at the stove making a grilled cheese, but by the end of the session, there are tears because they know that their child can do it and they feel comfortable letting them do it. And it's -- it's amazing. And then we all come together on Sunday morning and talk about what we learned and what our goals are, and there are usually tears again, because the parents are hearing what the students did, how they made friends, how they connected to other kids, and it's just -- they blossom. It's are l amazing. So you guys can refer your families to Game of Life, those middle schoolers who are thinking about transition. You can refer families to College and Vocational Prep, that happens in December, December 4th through December 7th this year, and those are kids -- that's high school and up. And, you know, we're thinking of kids who are not just college-bound. We are also looking to serve kids and their families who are just thinking about going to work and students who might be considering a vocational route, cosmetology school, anything. So this is not -- just know we're exploring all of those options and talking about how important it is to know what your rights are as an adult, how to advocate for your accommodations, talk about your visual impairment and be independent, live independently. And then we also have city travel, we partner with short-term programs for that as well. Scott Turner and Mary Shore, our O & M support that, so really good things happening here. So these are some of our resources. We want to make sure that you know about. You have Erica's contact information, my contact, Miriam Miramontes, she's our administrative supervisor, we mentioned that earlier with that fabulous team that can help with any of these conferences, training, registration. If there's not a specific contact for that event, you can always go to Miriam and get support. And then these will be in your handouts. We have links directly to all of these sites. Yes, so Kaycee just posted the link for the handout again. And you can go directly -- the Texas deafblind project is a phenomenal website. It really has a ton of great resources. Kaycee's done a really good job organizing those. Family engagement, you can get to all of our Family Recharge Zone Sessions, share that with your family so they can register. You can check out the technology, you can get the consultation, or just -- if you just need more information, we can have you fill out the form through these links, APH, and then just a reminder about our general services through the Outreach Services link. Anything I missed, Erica, that we want to make sure we share today, too? 

>>Cairns: This is Erica. Yeah, I -- hopefully that is comprehensive and full for you. You know, we mentioned short-term programs. We are outreach. There's also comprehensive programs, and so while we are separate departments here at TSVBI, we do collaborate quite a bit. We also have a robust curriculum department to the degree that several of our team members are coauthors on different publications that are being created. The essential tools of the trade for teachers who are deafblind came out over the summit. So huge props to Kaycee Bennett as the lead author on that. We're happy that that is a resource for you. We have essential tools of the trade for O and M coming, so another publication that our team has worked on as well. So it's just -- it's very exciting stuff. And we really appreciate you joining us today, learning some more about our resources, and we look forward to collaborating with you in the coming school year.