14:58:23 From Kate Borg : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 14:58:45 From Jill Cribbs : Jill Cribbs, TVI Weatherford ISD 14:58:55 From Sandy Brandt : Hello from North Dakota 14:58:57 From Elsa Hernandez : Hello from El Paso TX 14:59:02 From Jennifer Muller to Panelists : Jen--Bucks County IU PA 14:59:06 From Susan Threinen to Panelists : Susan Threinen, TSVI Kansas 14:59:06 From Linda Jordan : Hello from Boerne! 14:59:06 From Leslie Anderson to Panelists : Salem Oregon 14:59:06 From jannelli galvan : Jannelli Galvan, TVI, La Joya ISD 14:59:07 From Shay Utley : Shay Utley, COMS, Mansfield Tx 14:59:07 From Leanne Trost to Panelists : Hello from Cleveland, OH 14:59:08 From Jen Winslow to Panelists : Jen Winslow, TVI Nebraska 14:59:09 From erika fundelius to Panelists : Tallahassee, FL 14:59:10 From Christina Liebler to Panelists : Christina Liebler from Williamsburg, VA 14:59:10 From Joy Weaver : Joy Weaver, TVI Sonoma county, CA 14:59:11 From SHERRI NELSON : Hi from Fargo, North Dakota 14:59:13 From Sharon Butler to Panelists : Hello from Tennessee 14:59:14 From Lucy Davis : Lucy Davis, Carrollton-Farmers Branch, TX 14:59:15 From Joanna Credeur : Hi from Chattanooga! 14:59:16 From Merry-Noel Chamberlain to Panelists : Nebraska!!! 14:59:17 From Myra Moes : Houston, TX 14:59:17 From Callie Sanders to Panelists : Amarillo, Texas 14:59:18 From Emily DuPree to Panelists : Tyler, TX 14:59:18 From Lisa Olson : Greetings from San Diego. 14:59:19 From Stephanie McGuire : Hi from Ontario, Canada! 14:59:20 From Cathy Tassie to Panelists : Hello from snowy Vanderhoof, BC Canada 14:59:22 From Brandi Beasley to Panelists : Hi from Amherst, Virginia 14:59:22 From Andrea Perkins : Hello from Kentucky! 14:59:23 From Summer Beasley : Hello from Bremerton, WA 14:59:23 From Tracie Quinn : Hello form Victoria TX! 14:59:24 From Kathy Bannan to Panelists : Hi From PA 14:59:25 From Jessica Lipperer : Illinois 14:59:25 From Cassy Engelhardt : Cassy Engelhardt, Clintonville, Wisconsin 14:59:27 From Debra Sewell to Panelists : Debra Sewell from TSBVI is here 14:59:27 From Joy Weaver : Joy Weaver- jschoffe@gmail.com 14:59:28 From Jamie Wiksten to Panelists : Jamie Wiksten, Ft Worth ISD 14:59:28 From Brenda Dreyer : Hi from Dallas 14:59:29 From Kristine Lofranco to Panelists : Richmond, tx! 14:59:31 From JAnice Leslie to Panelists : Hello from Calgary AB Cananda 14:59:33 From lisa auwarter to Panelists : Staunton, VA 14:59:33 From Beth Adelson : Hello From Nebraska 14:59:33 From Kristin Brown to Panelists : Hi from deep in the heart of Texas!! 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Happy Monday! 15:03:54 From Kate Borg : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:04:13 From Kaycee Bennett : Please set your chats to "all panelists and attendees" 15:05:07 From Elizabeth White to Panelists : elizabeth.white@cfisd.net elizabeth white, ctvi 15:05:40 From Kaycee Bennett to Elizabeth White, All Panelists : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:06:29 From Kate Borg : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:09:29 From Valerie Kitazaki : Will we receive a copy of this PPT? 15:10:00 From Kaycee Bennett : Not the powerpoint, but the handouts are available at Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:13:52 From Ruth Barrow to Panelists : Katie I need to log out from my phone and back in on my laptop. will I be able to get back in? 15:14:16 From Kaycee Bennett to Ruth Barrow, All Panelists : Yes, use the same link and you will be able to get back in. 15:15:46 From SHERRI NELSON : The one handout is the ppt 15:17:20 From Charlotte Cushman : I’m so glad you’re talking about the impact of social and emotional development on the acquisition of braille skills! Scott wrote an excellent article about this, which you can find here: https://www.pathstoliteracy.org/blog/teaching-braille-whole-child-considering-impact-social-and-emotional-development-acquisition 15:18:59 From Lucy Davis : What about older students who can learn braille visually but just never seem to be able to develop the tactile skills? I am referring to partially sighted middle and high school students learning braille as an elective because they have very low vision or a progressive disease. 15:20:06 From Andrea L'Esperance to Panelists : Great question! 15:20:26 From Kaycee Bennett to Andrea L'Esperance, All Panelists : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:21:28 From Kate Borg : Lucy, I have worked with students in similar situations. It will be important to go back to the fundamentals of tactile development, even for older students. So it's not so much teaching the code but teaching those fundamental tactile skills. 15:21:30 From TSBVI Outreach Media : Handouts for todays presentation can be found at https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:21:31 From Kate Borg : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:21:38 From Elsa Hernandez : So do you keep pushing for them to learn the Braille tactually? 15:21:45 From Lucy Davis : Ok that sort of justifies my existence:) 15:22:30 From Debra Sewell to Panelists : Older students will still need to develop their tactual skills if they are going to be proficient braille readers. It just looks a little different 15:22:54 From Kaycee Bennett to Debra Sewell, All Panelists : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:25:53 From Kaycee Bennett to Panelists : 30 minute warning :) 15:27:23 From Brandi Beasley : So would the goal be that the answer is YES to all the questions? 15:27:33 From Galaxy A01 : Can you repeat again where the handouts can be downloaded and printed? 15:27:42 From Galaxy A01 : Hi 15:28:05 From Kaycee Bennett : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:28:05 From Galaxy A01 : CLARISSA JONES-EDWARDS from MOUNT VERNON, N.Y. 15:28:47 From TSBVI Outreach Media : Handouts for todays presentation can be found at https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:28:48 From Carrie Vroege : Could this replace the Functional Scheme (at least the Haptic-tactile section)? Because the Functional Scheme is expensive! 15:28:57 From Galaxy A01 : Thank you for you great presentation and information!!! 15:29:24 From Kaycee Bennett : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:30:28 From Dorothy Vetrano to Panelists : The question on sorting is HUGE for our pre-braille kiddos . They need to sort all kinds of things; shapes, and small objects. 15:30:47 From Kaycee Bennett to Dorothy Vetrano, All Panelists : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:33:44 From Chrissy Cowan to Panelists : What is the age of the youngest child you would use the checklist with? 15:34:06 From Kaycee Bennett to Chrissy Cowan, All Panelists : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:34:12 From Mary Tellefson to Panelists : Sara & Scott , I would love to share some information about this topic with you privately if you give me your email address.. This information has been a long time in coming! Thanks for your work. 15:35:12 From Sara Kitchen to Mary Tellefson, All Panelists : kitchens@tsbvi.edu, baltisbergers@tsbvi.edu 15:35:13 From Kaycee Bennett to Mary Tellefson, All Panelists : kitchens@tsbvi.edu and baltisbergers@tsbvi.edu 15:35:24 From Sara Kitchen to Mary Tellefson, All Panelists : Can’t wait to hear what you have to share! 15:35:43 From Kaycee Bennett : Handout for today: https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:36:05 From Leanne Trost to Panelists : I have an autistic student who doesn't talk. He has Leber's and is already severely visually impaired. Can I use this checklist with him? 15:36:24 From Kaycee Bennett to Leanne Trost, All Panelists : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:36:27 From Valerie Kitazaki : Could you clarify if the 'checklist' you are referring to is actually the early tactile learning profile that is one of the handouts? 15:36:28 From Sara Kitchen to Leanne Trost, All Panelists : Yes! 15:36:28 From TSBVI Outreach Media : Handouts for todays presentation can be found at https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:37:13 From Sheri Jackson to Panelists : hello, having connectivity issues on my end. Sorry. 15:37:40 From Brandi Beasley : Would you want #1-4 to be no? 15:38:46 From Brandi Beasley : Ok great so #1-4 are more informational 15:38:47 From Kaycee Bennett to Sheri Jackson, All Panelists : This is being recorded, so if you miss anything that you want to watch later, it will be posted on our Coffee Hour page at tsbvi.edu/coffeehour 15:39:24 From Kaycee Bennett : You can find this checklist as the second handout at https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:39:43 From Heather Withrow : I really appreciate the #3 question. 15:41:43 From Kathy Bannan : I've noticed that some of the links are not working - for questions 1&2 I get this message: We’re sorry, the page you requested within the Vision Education Alberta website cannot be found. The page may have been removed, had its address changed, or is temporarily unavailable. 15:41:45 From Sharon Jones : I can't seem to open any of the links, is it operator error? 15:41:47 From lisa auwarter to Panelists : Amazing lists of resources!!! 15:41:53 From Brandi Beasley : I really like how you give multiple evaluation & gathering information options. 15:42:10 From Sandra Gorham to Panelists : You mentioned information could be found on active learning site- could you repeat that. 15:42:18 From Sandy Brandt : Some times a student has a partial or emerging skill. It might be helpful to be able to note that. 15:42:29 From Margaret Howell : I love related service are included in the evaluation. 15:42:31 From Sharon Jones : Mainly the ones for Alberta education 15:42:32 From Carrie Vroege : I copied and pasted them 15:42:35 From Shannon Pruitt : not sure if it's the links but I think the info is not showing up as actual text 15:42:44 From Summer Beasley : links worked well for me. 15:42:53 From Brenda Dreyer : the sequence is great - wherever the child falls off (no), instruction can be tailored to move on to the next skill. This is really, really helpful - so much thought has been put into this aligning resources to each skill. 15:42:54 From Kristi Portugue : Is there a smaller version that could be stored in a student's file? One without the last two columns? We could always refer back when the info is needed. 15:42:54 From Christy Rosalez to Panelists : Love all the assessments used and how they all fit together 15:43:17 From Leanne Trost to Panelists : One of the links said came up with 404 error code 15:43:17 From Carrie Vroege : If you directly paste the link into the browser it works. 15:43:17 From Brandi Beasley : Ready bodies doesn't work either 15:43:31 From Chrissy Cowan to Panelists : Whew! You guys did a lot of research on this and it is most impressive! I picture this also being used with families of very young blind children, and I'm wondering if you have considered adding a link to any parallel developmental milestones. 15:43:34 From Lynn Shortis to Panelists : I got closed out but got back on. 15:43:39 From Kaycee Bennett to Sandra Gorham, All Panelists : activelearningspace.org 15:43:41 From Debbie Fussell : This is an excellent resource! Thank you! 15:43:45 From Heather Withrow : Questions #15 and #16 is wonderful! They’re kind of guiding questions that remind us to follow the child/student’s interests (interest in movement, too). 15:44:03 From Kelly Meyer : I agree with Sandy- it would be nice to be able to mark emerging skill 15:44:16 From Teresa Sanders : Thanks for the section on Evaluation & Information Gathering and Instructional Resources. 15:44:45 From Kate Borg : This is why we do trials like this. :) 15:44:59 From Laurie Cottrell : Looks like a wonderful tool! I will be checking out many of your tools and references! 15:45:22 From Missy VanDulman to Panelists : These are wonderful questions! I wish I would have had answers to some of these when I started doing braille with a student that was very tactialy defensive. He finally came around and is doing well with braille now!😊 15:45:30 From Merry-Noel Chamberlain : I tend to look a lot on formatting... I think it is nice when the sections break nicely on the page.. for example, #5 needs to start on the next page. When sections are broken at the bottom of the page, with only a couple of lines, can make it difficult to follow nicely. 15:45:34 From Tina Mekeel : I like this very much and it would be great if there would be a way to organize the results in a way that is similar to the Communication Matrix. 15:45:51 From Brandi Beasley : Question 22 is so important!! 15:45:56 From Cyral Miller to Panelists : might want to remind people to select all panelists and attendees in the chat 15:46:12 From lisa auwarter to Panelists : Tina - I love the idea about organizing the results like the Communication Matrix!!! 15:46:25 From Kaycee Bennett : Please set your chat to "all panelists and attendees" 15:46:48 From Kate Borg to Cyral Miller, All Panelists : Kaycee has given even targeted reminders. :) I figure everyone will have it figured out in May. 15:46:48 From Mary Tellefson to Panelists : components for hand function:Hand Development Muscles of the hand: extrinsic and intrinsic Shoulder and wrist stability Supination Grasp patterns Release Separation of the two sides of the hand Arches of the hand Finger isolation Thumb opposition and open web space In-hand manipulati 15:47:06 From Kelly Meyer : Would love to see the final draft have a place to mark what environments are being seen at- home/school/other 15:48:21 From Heather Withrow : This is great! I’m wondering if ability to follow (ride) someone else’s hands (Hand-Under-Hand) should be considered? Being able to tactually track movement? Just a thought I’d throw out here. 15:48:41 From Brandi Beasley : I think it would be really important to explain or note that these task need to be independent without prompting. I have found in some situations this is hard for certain service providers to see the importance that the child have the skill by themselves! 15:48:53 From Kaycee Bennett : Love that, Hex! Also love Kelly's comment about the environment being noted. 15:49:01 From Heather Withrow : :) 15:49:08 From Anita Henderson : What is the opening code? 15:49:14 From Kaycee Bennett : No opening code 15:49:28 From Efren Moreno : Will the final version be a fillable form? Meaning we could save as a template then create a new copy each time we want to use it. Makes it easy to fill out on a tablet (which will make it easier for those itinerant folks). 15:50:42 From Josie Zylstra : Yes - you have a section that captures "shared tactile attention" with a teacher 15:51:20 From Charlotte Cushman : Here’s the Development of Grasp checklist from the Active Learning Space: https://activelearningspace.org/images/ObrzutPromotingComprehendingHands2.pdf 15:51:30 From Lisa Olson : Invaluable resource! Thank you so much for your work on this. 15:51:51 From Chrissy Cowan to Panelists : So If I have a 3rd grade student in a regular classroom setting who is having great difficulties learning braille, do you suggest I use this checklist, suspend the braille reading program I'm using and put my energies into work on the tactile skills noted in the checklist? 15:51:53 From Lynn Shortis : This will be a great tool! 15:51:56 From Kaycee Bennett : kitchens@tsbvi.edu 15:52:02 From Kaycee Bennett : baltisbergers@tsbvi.edu 15:52:04 From Lisa Belliveau to Panelists : How are people accessing this? I can't get into it 15:52:11 From Sumer Bellinder : Thank you! I have a student in mind for this!!! 15:52:12 From Jennifer Hoffmann : This will be a great tool. Thank you. 15:52:15 From SHERRI NELSON : Great information 15:52:18 From Kate Borg : Also, you can find all of our contact info here: https://www.tsbvi.edu/outreach-staff 15:52:26 From Kaycee Bennett : You can find this checklist as the second handout at https://tsbvi.live/coffeehour 15:52:28 From lisa auwarter to Panelists : I can't wait to try it out with my students!!! 15:52:32 From Jen Winslow : Titled Handout 2 15:52:36 From Tracie Quinn : This is wondergul! 15:52:39 From Christopher Tabb : Thank you both for helping us understand students and help them succeed! 15:52:43 From Tracie Quinn : wonderful 15:53:23 From Brandi Beasley : I think it could be used with braille users! I have a student who is learning braille but struggles with tactile skills. So this may bring light to why there are struggles! 15:53:33 From Heather Withrow : Right on, Sara! 15:53:35 From Sharon Butler : Very nice hierarchy of skills to remind us what to look for and expand our observations to learn more. 15:53:47 From Kate Borg : After today, you can find this Coffee Hour and all previous sessions and resources at https://www.tsbvi.edu/coffeehour 15:53:53 From Lisa Maher : Modeling at times seems essential for students. Do you have any ideas how to help students cooperative with a hand under hand approach to exploring tactually to enhance that modeling? 15:54:07 From Jamie Wiksten : Thank you for all your work and presentation. Nice to see you all again! 15:54:18 From Josie Zylstra : will we have access to the recording of this session? 15:54:24 From Lisa Olson : Well done, Sara and Scott … and thank you, TSBVI, for hosting these training sessions. 15:54:31 From Kate Borg : Yes, Josie. After today, you can find this Coffee Hour and all previous sessions and resources at https://www.tsbvi.edu/coffeehour 15:54:32 From MarLisa Jacobs to Panelists : I think this checklist will be helpful in a variety of ways. Thank you for your presentation today. 15:54:33 From Sandy Brandt : Thank you for ALL you hard work on this! 15:54:50 From Josie Zylstra : thank you. Excellent session. 15:54:52 From Beth Adelson : Well Done! Thank you! 15:54:54 From MarLisa Jacobs : I think this checklist will be helpful in a variety of ways. Thank you for your presentation today. 15:54:58 From lisa auwarter to Panelists : Washington Deafblind Project website has great info on hand under hand with incredible videos, Lisa M. 15:55:07 From Kathy Bannan : Thank you for all your work on this! 15:55:08 From Sharon Butler : I have a 2nd grader who wants to read visually and she FDB. This may be something to use in tandem with Mangold... 15:55:11 From Marcy Meachum to Panelists : Do you see this as primarily a tool to help with braille skills acquisition or with other students besides pre-Brl students? 15:55:25 From Jodi Nicholson to Panelists : Thank you! 15:55:35 From Faith Yeung to Panelists : thank you! 15:55:50 From Chrissy Cowan : Stupendous work! Thank you. 15:55:51 From Marcy Meachum to Panelists : Thank you for creating this new tool. 15:55:52 From Lisa Belliveau to Panelists : Is there something that can be emailed? I still can't download it 15:55:57 From Shannon Spettel : Thank you for the additional resource! I look forward to the final tool 15:56:41 From Lisa Wright to Panelists : Can you put the link to the handouts in again, please? 15:56:45 From Karie Correll to Panelists : Thank you for the work you put into this checklist. What a great resource! 15:56:49 From Indu Eapen to Panelists : what are we supposed to do now with the code 15:56:50 From Charlotte Cushman : Wonderful tool, Sara and Scott! (And Ann & Debra) This will be so valuable for the field. 15:56:50 From Summer Beasley : Thanks so much! 15:56:50 From Lourdes Trovela to Panelists : Thanks Sara and Scott, I will definitely try it on my students who I have the concern. 15:56:56 From Heather Withrow : I loved this topic.. .more, please! 15:56:57 From Linda Jordan : Thanks! I appreciate your work on this... 15:56:59 From Merry-Noel Chamberlain : Thanks!!! 15:57:17 From Sheri Jackson to Panelists : Thanks 15:57:21 From Sara Kitchen : Hey Linda! Glad you could make it! I thought of you and your student. 15:57:48 From Darrell Sessums to Panelists : Thank you! 15:57:58 From Kate Borg : Find the handout and recording and all other recordings and resources at https://tsbvi.edu/coffeehour 15:58:26 From Kate Borg : Thank you everyone for being with us today!!!! 15:58:50 From Margaret Howell : Great information. 15:58:52 From Corinne Le : Thank you! 15:58:53 From Patrice Christian to Panelists : thank you Scott 15:58:55 From Patrice Christian to Panelists : and Sara 15:59:07 From Sara Kitchen : Hi Patrice!! 15:59:23 From De Anne Arledge to Panelists : Thanks Scott & Sara! Love sitting in on your coffee hours!! 16:00:14 From Galaxy A01 : Thanks again! 16:00:19 From Galaxy A01 : CLARISSA 16:00:28 From Texas Closed Captions to Panelists : Thank you!! 16:01:38 From Lynda Crouch to Panelists : Thank you!