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TSBVI Tech Tea Time: Mind Mapping: Assistive software for essay writing, note taking, task mgmt. etc.
3/27/25
 
>>Brandon: I'll just jump into it here. Obviously, I'm Brandon. The company Matchware. I'll give you a little bit of history with the company and the software. And then I'll jump in and show you how students would use it for a variety of things. Like essay writing, note-taking writing Even time management. So a little bit about the software. Well, the company first So the company's been around, gosh, over 30 years And we've been developing this software for gosh, over 20 years now. So it's uh extremely immature at this point. We're, I think, on version nine or 9. So we originally designed the software as a mind mapping tool. If you're not familiar with mind mapping, basically it's a structure in the top right hand of your screen. Where it starts in the middle and just explodes outwards. And there's all kinds of theories behind mind mapping. I'm not going to get all nerdy on you and talk about the theories. It's not as interesting probably. I think it is. Basically, the meat and potatoes of the theories is that this is a great tool for planning brainstorming and organizing. So that's what we developed, developed a tool that anybody could use you know in that area. And that's why I say it's a very diverse tool because you know you could do planning, brainstorming and organizing of just about every task or subject that you encounter. So that's there. And then what we started to do is we started integrating different layouts And adding content to it, we started integrating with Microsoft Office, integrating with Google. So there's all kinds of different ways that I'll show you how a student can use this. So that being said I will say I'm going to be heavily focused on the assistive features. In the software. Because we've got all types of certifications And I'll go over a lot of that when I get in the tool here. So that being said, let me open up MindView. Now, this first example I'm going to show you about essay writing. So also this first example is really geared towards Middle school students all the way through university But we also have a that's half of our focus. The other half are adults in the workplace too. So it's not just a kid's tool. Anybody can use this for the planning and brainstorming. Now, you can also see this looks like a Microsoft Office tool. We're gold partners with Microsoft and they allow us to use their interface And what that does is it really diminishes the learning curve. Because it's going to act and react very familiar like another office tool. Now we do have a Mac version. We have an online version, and we have an app. So it doesn't matter what platform the student is on. You know, we've got them Another little housekeeping comment here. So I'm going to be harping on Microsoft Office because I'm showing you the Windows version. But it integrates with pages for Mac, also integrates with Google Docs as well. So when I'm showing you some of the Microsoft office integration. Just think that Google works the same way and so do pages. Also, one thing I'm going to get out of the way first thing here, because I know the audience and the school. Is that we just completed a five year accreditation with the Digital Accessibility Center. And basically what happens over these last five years is that we give them a software, they break it, they give it back to us, we fix it. And that keeps going back and forth. And the DAC gives out three levels. Of accreditation. And we just got the second level. And I'll be honest with you, I don't know any other software that has gotten to that second level yet. So it's something that we're really, really proud of. And what that means to you is through that process. The DAC deemed us that we can work with any screen reader on the market. So if your students are using Jaws resume to text, everything in the software is going to be alt tagged correctly. So that… those screen readers work no matter which one you're using. Some other accessibility ones where I'm on that kick here. We can also turn the interface into a high contrast mode. Which makes it a lot easier to navigate for low vision. You can isolate certain items for low vision. And even some of our designs and styles Our high contrast mode as well. So again, easy to navigate and use for individuals low vision. All right, so I wanted to get that one out of the way so you guys could be rest assured that it does work with the screen readers, which I'm sure your students are using. So we're going to pretend I'm a student. It's a little bit of a stretch at my age, but we'll still pretend. And then we're going to pretend I have a writing assignment on famous authors. Now, the first thing you're supposed to do when you get a writing assignment is create an outline. But if they were like me, I'd open up word I'd start typing and I get that writer's block. And that's where the mind mapping portion of this comes into play. And the brainstorming portion comes into play. All you have to do is just double click out in the middle of nowhere. And maybe I want to talk about Dickens. Maybe I want to talk about is Early years. And famous works. And if you spell or type as bad as I do, I've got corrections for you. And then just out in the middle of nowhere, I'm just brain dumping really just getting my ideas down on the kind of quote unquote paper here But inevitably that brainstorming session stops. The student takes a look at this. And says, okay, what am I going to do with this mess? Then that's where we can reorganize. So I know famous authors is our main idea. So I want to pull in Dickens. How about Hughes? Let's say Hughes. Let's go here on my first enjoys the Hughes. Not only does this Well, all your traditional keyboard shortcuts are going to work in our software as well. So control C for copy. Control-v for paste. And now in a matter of a few moments. I've got an outline. Of my essay for famous authors here. So I'm going to continue to talk a lot about the assistive features that we built in So a lot of times students that have dyslexia working on a white background is not optimal. So we can come in and we can actually change the page color. And a lot of times a lot of times Those students have been tested so they can come in and they can put their RGB number in here. And a lot of times students on the spectrum will get tested for illumination and saturation, they can put their numbers in there as well. Also, I forgot to mention this, guys. I've been with a company so long, I've done this presentation quite a few times. So if you guys have any questions, I believe Donna mentioned that. The chat would be open and she'll monitor that. And just interrupt me as we're moving on. I really encourage you guys to ask questions. Because I might… I might show some things that aren't in my traditional walkthrough that's important to you. So feel free, don't hesitate to ask questions. You'll throw me off. Uh-huh. Okay.

>>Donna: And Brandon, this is Donna. We have our first question. Beth asks, she sees a lot of pointing and clicking, but how would a student do it with the keyword only?

>>Brandon: Yeah, that was part of that. Accreditation is that all the functionality can be in the keyboard as well. I just tend to, I'm a mouse person. Because I type bad. But insert on the keyboard, enter on the keyboard. I can double click. I can right click if I wanted to. I can even use the interface up here as well. So it doesn't matter how the student interacts with the computer. The functionalities, they're going to be all in the interface, all in the mouse. We're all in the keyboard. So you're good to go there. And like I said, that was… part of that accreditation too Okay, here we go.

>>Donna: Question to that would be, is there a guide of Yeastrokes that we could use.

>>Brandon: Yeah. Yep. There's um The manual is actually built into the software up in this little question mark, kind of like a traditional Windows program. And if you just type in keyboard shortcuts, it'll have all of them in there for you. Yep, so they're executive function So one of the issues when students have executive function disorder is planning and brainstorming and organizing. And basically those are the benefits of mind mapping. So just using mind mapping alone. It's going to help students with executive function. But also sequencing data. So we can come in and throw a numbering scheme on this. We can see there's a hierarchy which plays a a really important role when we get into the office integration. I'll show you that a little bit later. But we can always rearrange all this too. So, you know, maybe you went Hemingway last and you want Hughes second. As you move things around, it'll renumber for you. And you can move things again with the keyboard, hitting Control and the space arrows. You can move things around that way as well. Speech to text, text to speech is built into the software. We also work right out of the box with Dragon. For that same functionality. Even predictive text We partnered with a company called Text Help. I think they've changed their name recently. But everybody knows them as text help. And we've put their predictive text in the software. So, uh. Students typing, it'll try to predict the next word in the sequence there. Also, eventually I'm going to export this over to PowerPoint and I can pull in images if I wanted to. And all I have to do, and it looks like he's already up here, here's Dickens. I think there's like 2000 clip art built in. But I can just drag and drop and I can put the image on the branch. And I can also pull it from a source on my computer as well. And sometimes that's the hardest part is finding Here we go. Okay, so here's what we're doing. You're using the mind map to do the planning and brainstorming. We're adding in all the content. And then, you know, we're reorganizing as well. So we've actually put some assistive Sorry, AI. In the software, not assistive. And I know the jury's still out on AI, especially with how schools use the software But I think with talking with a lot of colleges and universities, I think Everyone can agree on two things. One. Ai's here. To the… We don't want AI to do the work for the student. So we wanted to introduce AI and the software as an assistive tool. To help brainstorm. Because… The issue is when I was doing all of that brainstorming, I had all that information in my head about famous authors. The problem occurs is when I don't have that in my head and I'm looking at this screen. I don't know how to get started or where to start. So I get that commonly called the blank page syndrome. I just sit there and stare at this blank page, basically. So with AI here, what we can do is we can just click on brainstorm. And so what we do is we've made five main branches and we did five sub-branches. And so we limited it to because we don't want to do the entire project. We just want to help them get started. The other thing too is we limit the number of characters on a branch. So we didn't want to write the entire essay for me either. So again, this is just a jumping off point. Also with AI, English as a second language, we can translate this to any language that we want. And then there's also There's also some grammar assist in here as well. Now, all that AI that I was just talking about can be turned on or off. So if school parents don't want to introduce AI. You can just disable it. It's not a big deal. So I hope all that makes sense. I'll pause. Any questions out there?

>>Donna: None have popped up yet.

>>Brandon: Well, let me do this for you guys. Let me speed it up for you. I'm going to grab a template. It's going to be like one of those cooking shows my wife makes me watch.

>>Donna: And Ben thinks it's great and is excited to learn more. Ben, I love this. While Brandon is doing this, I actually did use… the software when planning my dissertation. I'm partial to it.

>>Brandon: Yeah, and the map I just pulled up. You know, obviously. There's images on each one of these branches. Early years, I've developed, yeah, I didn't mention that So when I export this over to Word, let me back up a little bit so it makes more sense for you. When I export this over to Word. Dickens becomes a main heading. Early years and famous works will become subheadings And then it works itself around clockwise. So all these branches are going to be headings. Now, we can start developing these paragraphs further by just opening up a text editor I can develop these paragraphs associated with these headings. And that's what I did throughout this bigger map. I just developed the topics a bit further. And the student is coming up or the student is doing the work you know we're not doing the work for the student. We're just giving them a vehicle that makes the work easier. So, I mean… Okay, so Feynman, I never spell that right. So famous quote from Oliver Twist. Now, we can't put a quote in without citing a source. So in the tool itself, there's a citation tool. So I'm going to click on Insert Citation. Now, we can manually enter these. Boo. Or we can use Zotero, Mandalaye. Worldcat is actually built in. So let's just go books and books Now I can put the ISBN number if I wanted to. Cool. So here's my book I want to read or i'm reading Okay. And it inserts the citation down below. So… Here's the cool part. Well, this is already cool, but here's the cooler part. When we export this over to Word, and remember Google pages, same thing. This is where the student can choose APA, MOA, Harvard. Whatever academic format they want. Under the general settings, they can include like a title page, a bibliography, table of contents And with the pictures, obviously I'm not going to turn in a paper with a bunch of pictures in it. So we'll eliminate those. And then export. Let me show you what it looks like. Okay, so here we are in Word. You're the title page with a running header. It automatically generates this interactive table of contents for you. So if I click on Dickens. So remember, Dickens was a main branch. Earliers was a sub-branch. This was all that text that was in the text node editor. We also have the citation down here as well. And I was kind of jokingly say, you know, we're not handing out free A's here The student is coming up with all this content. And like I mentioned before, we're giving them An easy vehicle with mind mapping to do the planning and brainstorming. But then we're also helping them format it when they send it off to Microsoft Office or Google Docs. And a little drum roll moment. Scroll all the way down and also creates the reference and bibliography page. Okay, so the reality of this is this is probably going to be a rough draft. So I can come in and I can make changes here. I can then import it back into MindView and it'll update a new map with those changes. So our integration is always import and export.

>>Donna: So awesome. Don again. Sandy asked if it was possible, and I don't know if you have a screen reader to show us what it behaved like to show us how the screen reader behaves. Inside

>>Brandon: I don't on this computer, but what i can do You know, the manuals built in, I'm not sure who really reads manuals anymore, but it's in there. But our YouTube channel. Has a ton of tutorial videos. I know there's a couple of examples up there that I can send to you, Donna, and you can forward them too. However, I'd like to see it.

>>Donna: Absolutely. And Sandy, we can add those to the… to the post viewing where you get your handouts and can review the assignments. So for anybody that's watching this after, we will make sure to have the links set up in the post viewing.

>>Brandon: So we can also export this over to PowerPoint. Each one of these branches will become a slide. Obviously, we know what PowerPoint's used for, you know, presentations But let me show you a different example here. And let's see. Here we go. So when we polled our users. One of the interesting things that came out of that Because they were using PowerPoint to create flashcards. So this example I have on your screen is someone that mapped out all of their vocabulary or maybe even the vocabulary they were having difficulties with. And I'm just going to focus in on one section here. And these branch focuses are nice for individuals with ADHD. Because if you could break it down into chunks, it really simplifies and alleviates a lot of that anxiety of like a big project or a big map. Also, as I mentioned before, this isolation is great for low vision too because Obviously, it's bringing everything to the forefront. Okay, so this example I really like because the student is trying to put together sentences. Hugar, you know, I play, so I play football, I play basketball The funny thing too is the funny thing is You can show me this word. I never would have guessed it was basketball. But they associated images with each one of these branches as well. And again, getting a little nerdy with the um the mind mapping theory colors and images are really important for memory retention. And the other thing in the textile editor. They, you know, put down the English word and also the pronunciation. So let me clear this branch focus And I'm going to export this over to PowerPoint. And again, pick a template, you know, whatever you want to use it for. All right. So everything we had on that branch gets placed over here. And then you've got flashcards. You've got a presentation or doing a speech, but super easy. And this is a two-way street as well so If you make changes, you can always import it back in. Okay, so that's a little bit of the The planning, the brainstorming, the essay writing, the PowerPoint. I have a really bad habit of just pigeonholing this into a few different examples. Always just kind of keep in the back of your head that this can be applied on a lot of different subjects in school. And at the end, I'll go through some of the templates and show you some different applications for it. But this next one I'm going to show you, I like because i was such a disorganized student myself Here we go. Now, this example is a little bit more geared towards university level But it can be applied to be applied high school as well and middle school. So every time a student you know went to class or maybe talked about this accounting or finance or whatever subject they're on. They created a branch. The cool part about this is that you can attach any type of files to these branches. So if they were taking notes or they had a link over to a website or the syllabus, the presentations there so I like this because everything's all in one spot. It's not like the student is jumping through folders and subfolders trying to find everything. The other thing I like about this as well is that when I do export this over to Word. All of those attachments go with it. So then comes a nice study guide for any tests or quizzes that should pop up. Okay. Let me walk into the time management component of this. So let me grab a other template. Okay, so I'm going to minimize social and work activities and We're just going to focus on school here. We've got plenty of time so I can tell a story about this one. Okay, so what this student did is they mapped out all of their classes as you can tell. And then they mapped out all of their assignments in those classes. So they also attached the assignments here as well. So they're using this as an electronic notebook because once again, everything's here in this one spot. Now, you can also link over to like an LMS, like a Blackboard or Canvas or EDSPE, you know, whatever you're using there at the schools. So what this view does is it gets everything all in one spot. It's not like, again, jumping through folders and subfolders. Kind of a funny story here. It's a little dated story, but it's still relevant. During the whole COVID thing, my wife and I started working from home. And we've got two boys. At the time, they were 11 and 13. And they start working from home. So the thing in Tampa the schools have is called EDSPI. And Etsy is just like Blackboard. It's an LMS. We can log in, get your assignments and turn your assignments in. So we thought that was pretty cool. It made it easy for them to work from home. So about a week or so later, we checked in on them and The only thing that they were logging into. Was Minecraft or Fortnite, whatever was popular back then. And I always have to defend them a little bit because NSP wasn't really easy to use and navigate. It wasn't easy to use or navigate. So I had him do very similar to what's on your screen here. They mapped everything out so they get a nice overview. Of their assignments, what they need to get done. Now, the time management piece came in the fact that you can put due dates on these branches. And I think more importantly in my mind, you could estimate the start date of these assignments. And that's what this student did is they went down and estimated all the due dates and then put the the start date when they should start them. And this all can be synchronized with the app on our phone. So if you want alerts, then you could get alerts if you wanted to. So throughout this walkthrough that I'm doing for you guys. I've really been focusing just on mind mapping. Because I like the concept. There's a lot you can do with it. But in the software itself. There's like eight or nine different layouts. So what I can do is I can take this mind map And I can simply just left click And I can turn this entire map into a timeline. And all the layouts and views that I'm going to show you all have the same functionality. You can drag and drop, you can enter. Anything you did in the map, the same functionalities here. This can be printed out, it could be saved as a PDF. You're going to see, or maybe you're catching on already There's no big secret to the software. It's all the same data. We're just displaying a little bit differently depending on how you want to present it or how you want to use it. And you can start out in any one of these layouts. I just prefer starting out in the mind map. Because it was designed for planning and brainstorming. And then I like to convert it into different layouts. So let me keep walking down this time management path. So… I mentioned adults use this in the workplace as well And so we introduced what's called a Kanban report is might not know what a Kanban is. Basically, it's… a view that's used in a lot of agile project management. But a lot of students are um leaning towards this CAN bond for simple task management. Because basically you get these three swim lanes And then you can just drag and drop your assignments into these different buckets. And again, anything you change here is going to update everything else. Now, there's also a year wheel And just like it sounds, it's a wheel. That has all your dates and just a different way to view the time management. And you can get real crazy and you can turn this into a Gantt chart if you want. If you want to do some hardcore project management. But you can keep it as simple or as complex as you need to. But the task and time management are important components of the tool. Okay. So I said I'd touch on the templates. So in the software itself. There's 90 or so different templates. Ranging from language arts to nursing to sciences, study skills And I've been showing you kind of middle school all the way to university When it gets to the lower or younger kids. In the lower grades. It's a lot of concepts and vocabulary. Mapping out. So let me show you one last example here. Scroll down, see if I've got it. Yeah, okay. Okay, and let me change the design. I'll be able to see it a little bit better. There we go. Okay, so let me explain this one. Son that was playing Fortnite and COVID. Now he's 18. And we're doing all the college stuff. The college stuff is easy. Teaching financial responsibilities a little bit more difficult. So I did this exercise with him where I said, okay, let's talk about what next fall is going to look like. And, you know, what type of money you have And so we brainstormed. And I think the only two things he could come up with was food and rent. Typical. So I helped him with the rest of this stuff. But I said, okay, so money out. You've got about 2,000 a month. I'm going to scroll down a little bit. And then we want to talk about, okay, what are you earning? And then, and you can do this over in this calculation. Window where you can put values to these labels. But the cool thing is you can roll everything up. And when we rolled everything up, he had a whopping $23 left over. But it was a good exercise. Because even though it's a… you know like a real world problem um it's it's fun to visualize and do the exercise of the software. And it really opened his eyes to things that he had Not really considered what's going to happen in the fall But yeah, I mentioned to Donna, in the beginning, I know we've got this mapped out for an hour. I told her I could get through in about 30 minutes. I'm almost spot on. So let me know if you guys have any other questions or if you want to see something else. If you saw something in the interface that I skipped Feel free to ask away.

>>Donna: And we are holding and counting for questions.

>>Brandon: And while people are maybe thinking of some questions, I'll kind of repeat that as well. So the training with the software. In the tool itself under view panels and quick start. I give some tutorial videos that are built in. Our YouTube channel and then of course the manual is there as well.

>>Donna: And I wonder if you have by any chance the link to the YouTube channel. We can go ahead and share that in the chat. And Ben asks, will a schedule that you create sync to a calendar?

>>Brandon: Yes. Let me… Yeah, here it is. Cool. Let me put this in the chat real quick and I'll answer your question. There you go. Yes, it will sync to a calendar. So… Over here in this panel, we can export. And we can export, obviously, the entire office pack package. We can also export it over to an Outlook task list In the tool though. There is a task system that's already built in. That has a calendar view. If I were to synchronize this with the calendar view here, it'll populate the calendar. Within the tool so that you don't have to get out of the tool. So everything's all in one spot But, you know, you could still get it over to like a iCalendar, Google calendar Outlook as well.

>>Donna: I think we just blew Ben's mind if that emoji is anything to do. That you mentioned. Is this an internal capability separate from the screen reader and can it focus be directed with the mouse and or the keyboard.

>>Brandon: Say that one more time.

>>Donna: John asks. That we mentioned. Speech to text. Is that an internal capability of them of the software or separate and separate from the screen reader. Or is that… screen reader only for that speech to text. And can its focus be directed using the keyboard and mouse?

>>Brandon: Yes, on all accounts. There's speech to text and text to speech built in. And we actually just updated it with Microsoft Azure. Microsoft Windows feature text and text-to-speech wasn't that great when it came out. They ended up purchasing Nuance who makes Dragon. And then they just came out with Azure speech to text and that's what's built in now. And I would put it right up there against Dragon now. So it's good quality But they also have the capabilities of using dragon With it as well. And yes, everything can be executed. With the keyboard.

>>Donna: I think that would be handy for our kiddos that are still learning to type to be able to speak and i I can vouch for the the windows dictate as well it works rather nicely

>>Brandon: Yeah, and some people don't know this as well. On the Windows dictate There's a setting in Windows that you teach the speech to text and text-to-speech, your voice. So if you don't do that. It's probably 70, 75% accurate. But if you actually set your voice and your speech patterns and teach Windows, it's a real. Easy to do. It's just a little wizard that you say a couple things and make sure that, you know, if you have an accent or something like that, it'll pick up the accent. But I would say it's probably 95% when you do the speech setup in Windows.

>>Donna: Wonderful. Do we have any more questions? Those are great questions so far And thank you for putting that link to the YouTube channel in the chat. And we will make sure that we grab that and put it up with the recording. Questions coming through. I'm looking forward to giving this a try. I think I might use it when teaching this summer to make flashcards for my university students. That might be fun.

>>Brandon: Cool. Yeah, also there is a free trial on the web on the website. Let me direct you there though. It's not super clear on our website. It's actually somewhat annoying to me. So we have… a traditional commercial version. And then we have an AT version. I'm going to put this in the chat too. The AT, so when you click on free trial, it depends on where you click of what version you get. So you want to do the free trial on this page. Because that's going to be the AT version. And it has a lot of those assistive features that I was talking about, like the speech to text, text to speech. I don't want you to download the commercial version. I don't even call it a commercial version. It's just a, I don't know why I have two different versions, but Because a lot of the assistive features I was showing you is not going to be in the traditional version. So… do this for you.

>>Donna: Wonderful to know. I would have gone to the wrong one.

>>Brandon: Yep, yep. I don't know why we don't make that a little more clear, but yeah download it on this page and then it'll be the AT version. And there's really there's nothing Well, besides the functionality of the assistive features. The visual of it is exactly the same. The only difference is it says AET up here. So it's not like it's glaringly obvious.

>>Donna: I see the numbering scheme up there. Is it possible to take the mind map part and turn it into an outline or turn an outline into the mind map say if we got an outline from a teacher

>>Brandon: Yeah, definitely. It does not have to be created in mind viewed in mind to be imported in. So if you have a traditional Word document or a PowerPoint or Excel or an outline and whatever form. You should be able to just import it in and it'll create the map for you. You can also do a lot of copy and pasting so When you're importing in, it has to be a certain hierarchy. So MindView knows how to read it. But if it's an outline, you can just copy and paste it. It'd be super easy and it'll create the map for you. I can show it to you. I'll show you an example. I want to show you an example of that. See if I can find one. I'll put it out of an Excel spreadsheet. It's close to an outline. Okay, so Excel spreadsheet, right? And I want to pull this data in. So instead of trying to figure out that hierarchy. I'm just going to do control C. Go back to mind view And then do Control-V. Now, the only issue that you're going to find here is that it doesn't create the hierarchy when you just do a copy and paste. But honestly. Dragging and dropping like this and creating the hierarchy is sometimes a lot faster than trying to figure out, you know. How to actually make the hierarchy. So, yeah. But yeah, you can copy and paste pretty much from anything.

>>Donna: And are there keystrokes that mimic that drag and drop? Yeah, I believe it, let me see if I can… Yeah, if you hold down control And then use your up and down arrow. You can drag and drop it. Thank you

>>Brandon: Yeah, so when I click on this question mark here. Do. Yep. Yeah, here's all the keyboard shortcuts. You should search for it in here and in It'll list them all for you.

>>Donna: I love that y'all have built accessibility in beforehand instead of an afterthought. It feels more elegantly interwoven instead of slapped on top, which is what we encounter a lot of times with our accessibility.

>>Brandon: Yeah, and one thing I didn't mention too those documents like that word export it's accessible right out of the export too. So when you're so taking this information out into another format, it'll be accessible That's a good point. So let me scroll down here. So this little image says a lot. So we've been… putting in assistive features in the software almost from day one So there's not a lot of… software companies that are in the space that focus truly on assistive tools. We all know each other and we're all friends and we all integrate together. And we all decided to be friends and integrate together because it just makes the portfolio of software that a student or adult might have that much stronger when they all communicate with each other. So… Yeah, you'll see that. There is a lot of software companies that do have this as an afterthought. Just to kind of develop a different market and it's They need to go through all the accreditations and things like that. I also say too that If you go to Google and you type in mind mapping software. There's probably 30 or 40 of us. I'm guessing I lost count a couple years ago. So we had to differentiate ourselves from just traditional mind mapping. And there's also free mind mapping tools. So to… differentiate us differentiate us That's why we started focusing on neurodiversity. Within the tool. We can easily say that we're the only truly assistive mind mapping tool on the market. Another thing that sets us apart is that integration with Microsoft Office and Google Docs And all those different layouts that are built in. Because it's not, mind mapping is great, but it's what do you do after you make a mind map? So that's why you see a lot of that integration. And one other thing, since we have a second or two here. Let me find it. So on our website You know, we really focused on, you know, what makes mind viewed an assistive technology. So we broke down a lot of the neurodivergent diagnosis And we listed the features specifically for those individuals. That way we have low vision, no vision. Yep. So yeah, high contrast, branch focus Alt tagging kind of mentioned all these integration with all the screen readers but So yeah.

>>Donna: Love it. And we will pause for any more questions. I so appreciate you coming and joining us today and telling us about I'm partial to the software. I've been watching you guys for years and I'm glad we could get you on today to share. And like, loving. Information be spread about information about software that I think would be great.

>>Brandon: Yeah, obviously, thanks for having me um the more We get it out there more people know about it.

>>Donna: Absolutely. And thank you, Ben. Ben says that thank you so much. Very happy that he was able to attend. And it's mind-blowing and exciting. And in the opposite effect, we occasionally get mind maps from our teachers, those of you that are out thinking of how you could use this with your students We do get mind maps coming from our teachers that are completely inaccessible. So using this tool, we could give our students accessible mind maps That they're able to use with their teammates and classmates as they prepare documents. And do teamwork. So they're fully integrated in as part of the team. So that is… I think a wonderful opportunity for our students to be interactive and a complete part of their classroom community. There was another question that I had and it just went out of my head today. But I'm sure I'll think about it and email you later.

>>Brandon: Well, if I could just add to that, because remember in the beginning i said, I have a traditional walkthrough, but if I were to show all the features it's a little bit overwhelming to go by feature by feature. So I tried to give just tidbits To kind of whet your appetite a little bit of what it can do. One thing I totally didn't mention, you mentioned the word teamwork. Everything's collaborative in the software. So people can work on the same files at the same time. I can even, if I wanted to say this was a group project, I can lock people out of certain branches where it's maybe not their portion of the assignment. I can also track changes in the software as well. Because behind the scenes, you can save this to what's called mind view And MindView Drive is just like Google Drive, OneDrive, SharePoint. So it allows you to collaborate real time.